50 years ago today…

Approximately one minute after this picture was taken, at 12:30 PM CST on Nov. 22, 1963

JFK shooting

President John Fitzgerald Kennedy was shot in Dallas, Texas…

Ironically, that was a Friday, and today the 50th anniversary is also a Friday.

I was in the 7th grade, sitting in Mrs. Tye’s math class when she was called out the door for a hurried conference with someone (probably either the principal or assistant), I remember she came back into class with a stunned expression and tears streaming down her face; in a hushed tone told us that President Kennedy had just been shot in Dallas.

I don’t think any of us actually reacted, probably because we didn’t understand the magnitude of what had just happened…

I remember a few minutes later the PA came on with a transistor radio being held up to the microphone and we listed to the announcer describing what had happened. I remember he said the President had been taken to Parkland Hospital, and asking people to pray for the President. At 1300 the announcer came on and said that the President was dead.  At that point I remember there were some hurried conferences and they cancelled school that day.

I remember going home and seeing my mother in the kitchen washing dishes and she asked me why I was home early.  When I told her, we turned on the TV to see the coverage on all three of the channels we could get.  I do remember watching Johnson sworn in on Air Force One, and it leaving for DC.  All the announcers were somber, and I probably asked a ton of questions that my mother couldn’t or wouldn’t answer…

Then there was the chase, capture and shooting of Oswald…

Those two days in Dallas changed everything in my opinion…

The mysticism surrounding the Kennedy ‘legacy’ started that day- Camelot, the Peace Corps, what ‘would’ have been, how good he was, etc.  That fantasy continues to this day, surrounding the entire family…

The endless conspiracy speculations aside, our beliefs about who and what we were took the biggest hits that day in my opinion. The Red scare in the 50s, the brink of nuclear war with Castro, Khrushchev in 1962, the space race, and the start of our involvement in Vietnam were all front and center.  Huntley and Brinkley, Cronkite and others were providing the news, and everybody listened.  I think we believed we were still ‘winners’ and immune to all the political propaganda and ‘evil’ by the political parties.  I remember hearing that we would never make the same mistakes the Germans or the Russians or the Chinese had made with Hitler, Stalin and Mao. 

To me the quote, delivered in his inaugural address 20 Jan 1961, was what lead many of us to voluntarily join the military over the intervening years…

And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country.

This sentence followed, and was his plea to the world as a whole…

My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.

Needless to say, that didn’t work out too well on either side in hindsight…

Sadly, today that first quote seems to be reversed under the current administration, and I believe that it is the result of Johnson’s presidency come to fruition…  The Great Society stuff, the Detroit model city, Johnson’s my way or the highway attitude, etc…

We give billions of dollars to other countries in aid, and what do we get in return?  And Kennedy was a proponent of a strong military, he overcame strong opposition from the Army Chief to authorize the Green Berets, and was ‘fond’ of the Navy UDT since he’d been part of the small special operations community in WWII when he commanded PT-109.  He firmly believed small special operations groups had a place in military operations and their ability to disrupt much larger forces based on his own experiences.

I think if Kennedy were alive today, he’d probably be considered a right wing extremist…

Comments

50 years ago today… — 25 Comments

  1. I was in the 5th grade, at home sick watching TV when it happened. Don’t have that “listened in school” experience so many of our peers have.
    Compare that naval hero Kennedy with (spit) Swift Boat John Kerry.

  2. I don’t think they will ever sort out all the conspiracy theories, I know today they would never call for everyone to pray for the president either, especially in school.

  3. I am not a fan of JFK’s presidency. If he’d lived, the dialog about what he did and didn’t do would have been more clearly focused than it can be with the JFK martyr/rewritten history being in vogue. However, compared to the present socialist administration, he’d be a Tea Party “radical”.

  4. I was a lowly airman third class, just out of aircraft maintenance tech school, home on leave. My wife (who I hadn’t met yet) was training with the Peace Corps. Agreed, today JFK would be viewed as a right wing radical or a Tea Party “hater”.
    The concept that a president, his staff & his entire political party would ever lie to us was not possible. Then.

  5. Ed- Actually he should have been court martialled for what happened (crew asleep with no watch posted, which is why they got run over… But still, I’d take him over Kerry in a heartbeat!

    Duke- True!

    LL- Good points!

    Roger- As you point out, things have ‘changed’… sigh

  6. I was in 7th grade as well. We had just had school-wide TVs installed in our classrooms that fall so we spent the rest of the school day watching the commentary. I still have the newspaper of the day folded and stored in an old “World Book” set of the time. While there’s many opinions of his presidency – at least he had our nation thinking “Big” – not small and petty as we are today. And while we can all speculate the possibilities . . . we are where we are.

  7. It is interesting how his assassination caused a mythology to be created. And these days he probably WOULD be targeted as too conservative.

  8. Why are the secret service men not on the foot stands/handles at the back of the presidential car?

    Treason.

  9. last week i watched a documentary called “The Smoking Gun”
    The researcher spent years going over all evidence, and eye witness testimony.
    After the first shot hit, a second one went off.. That second shot the witnesses all said came from the Secret Service car. The researcher believes that the second shot, was accidently fired from an Agent who was rushing to grab his AR-15 off the floor board of the car he was riding in. Not realizing the safety was off, the car lunged forward and he accidently fired hitting Kennedy in the head.
    Witness’s gave accounts of seeing a man in one of the cars with a rifle, and it being fired.

    This to me is the most convincing theory yet. And it also would explain the massive cover up by the Secret Service, and the Warren Commission.

  10. Bill- Understood and agreed.

    PH- Concur

    Opus- Depends on which report you believe, some say Jackie Kennedy didn’t want them on the car, same reason the bubble top was removed… visibility… Who knows?

    JUGM- I doubt we will EVER know the truth… And every ‘truth’ will be discounted by ‘some’ research… sigh

    • Those guys were on the handles/foot pads just seconds before. They were called off, likely by radio. Maybe whoever radioed claimed it was at Jackie’s behest. But I guarantee you. No first lady is going to mess with secret service policy and procedures for “visibility” down one lone road in Dallas.

  11. We had just road marched from the heavy weapons range in freezing drizzle at Ft Leonard Wood. The company clerk was dashing around the barracks with a breathless report. Several transistor radios were turned on and we listened to the reports. Training started the next day as scheduled. Being the Army, lurid rumors spread. A few days later we dressed in Class As, marched through the snow in frigid temperatures, and stood in formation in a gravel pit to hear the official death order read.

  12. I was in 3rd grade, but otherwise my experience was the same as your.

    +Eleventy to LL’s comment. JFK was no saint, and while not as extreme as many of his fellow Dems, he was certainly no conservative.

  13. I wasn’t even born yet, but strangely had JFK’s death intertwined in a case once.

  14. 7th grade too… Oscar, our bus driver, informed us as we boarded.
    I heard some parts of JFK speeches on the radio, & I agree that he would be a right-winger today.
    What happened, democrats?

  15. It’s amazing how many of us were in 7th grade, and have similar recollections and perspectives of the shooting and its ramifications.

    IMO the worst consequence was the elevation of LBJ to the presidency and subsequent implementation of the ‘Great Society,’ which has done more to harm this country than anything else I can think of (with the possible exception of obama’s election).

  16. I was in the 6th Grade!
    And between family history in law enforcement and the JFK assassination, I became an investigator.
    Agreed JFK would be at the very least a ‘conservative’ now.

    Glad I’m not the only gun blogger to post about this! 🙂
    The Nation did change, and not for the better.

    Remember Jack @ 1230 Central time, today.
    gfa

  17. While it is true he lost his command to a ramming due to command failures, he more than atoned for that by his subsequent actions.

    I always thought his attempts to keep Vietnam from spiraling out of control with SF guys was the right thing to do.

    I find it fitting that Special Forces guys, wearing the distinctive head gear he authorized them served as his pallbearers.

  18. If JFK were alive today….He might ne Ted Cruz’s running mate.

  19. I was on a headset in front of the patch panel in the blockhouse to one of the Saturn 1 test stands at the
    Saturn Propulsion & Structural Test Facility at MSFC, Huntsville, Ala. when the news came over the net,
    which I passed on to the rest of the crew. In light of the comments here, I’d characterize the comments there as interesting, ranging from shock, disbelief, grief, anguish,
    sorrow and etc.
    A couple of the more interesting experiences I encountered
    during this tragedy occurred during a Man in the Street
    interview in NYC later that day or the next. One woman stated, as best as I recall, “Well, I think it’s probably
    a good thing. Maybe now we can get back to a constitutional government”, when she was promptly cut off, followed shortly thereafter by an interminable, intemperate tirade by some guy who ranted and raved “It’s those d—-d
    southerners fault. They should declare martial law over the entire South. They should be…” (insert all manner of vindictive vituperation here.)

  20. I commented to someone on Facebook no less, that if Kennedy had lived to complete two terms, he would now be considered a mediocre President at best.

    Between the Bay of Pigs, the Cuban Missile Crisis, and other blunders, he was as naive and ham handed as the guy in the Oval Office now. He was barely as competent as Jimmy Carter.

    She didn’t like that or my mention of his fidelity problems. The worst of Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter combined. Wonderful.

  21. I was nine at the time we were waiting for the TV to warm up so we could watch TV Science.That is how we learned JFK had been shot