Now THIS is truly strange…

I’ve NEVER heard of anything like this before, except in coalition situations…  Never seen a foreign officer be given command of US troops here in America… Article HERE.

Australian General chosen as U.S. Army Pacific Deputy

By William Cole Honolulu Star-Advertiser.
The appointment of two-star Maj. Gen. Richard Burr is called “unprecedented”

In one of the highest-ranking assignments of its kind, a two-star general with the Australian Defense Force has been named a deputy commanding general of U.S. Army Pacific, headquartered at Fort Shafter.


Army officials called the posting “unprecedented” for Army service component commands — of which Fort Shafter is one — and said it’s rare to have a foreign officer that high in command in the U.S. Army.



Australian Maj. Gen. Richard “Rick” Maxwell Burr will start in early November. Among his duties, Burr will serve as the main command post deputy commanding general for contingency operations, direct the development of annual training and exercise plans, and provide oversight of engagement within the South Asia and Oceania areas, the Army said.



Burr will report to and advise and assist Lt. Gen. Francis Wiercinski, commander of U.S. Army Pacific.



Army Secretary John McHugh, stopping in Hawaii after visiting Turkey, Mongolia and South Korea, told reporters Monday that Army leaders in Hawaii are “trying to ensure what has been the case in all these years — that is that the Army remains a vital force in the Pacific.” Bringing in Burr is part of the effort to maintain that importance, McHugh said.



McHugh said the Australians “have been one of, if not our most, critical partners” in places such as Af­ghani­stan.



“I don’t think it’s surprising, then, as we look to engage in this part of the region, where we’re looking for bilateral or trilateral and beyond relationships, that we’d bring in someone like Maj. Gen. Burr,” McHugh said.



Burr commanded Australian Special Forces Task Groups in Af­ghani­stan in 2002 and for the invasion of Iraq in 2003, and in 2008 was commander of all Special Forces assigned to the International Security Assistance Force in Af­ghani­stan.



There are combined force command elements in South Korea with U.S. Army and Korean officers, foreign liaison officers within U.S. commands, and a one-star Canadian general with the Army’s III Corps in Texas, but Hawaii Army officials could not come up with any other foreign two-star officers in the Army.Maj. Gen. Roger F. Mathews also is a deputy commanding general at U.S. Army Pacific, which oversees Army forces in an area that covers half the globe.



Army officials were asked Monday how allies such as Japan and South Korea have viewed the Australian posting.



“Those are great allies and partners of the United States, and so there’s been curiosity and some questions in that regard,” said Mathews, the other deputy commander at U.S. Army Pacific.



ASKED whether there might be other, similar foreign officer appointments to the Army, McHugh said, “We’re going to continue to do what we need to do to work on a regional basis.”



He added, “When we talk about the United States’ interest in the Pacific region, our concern is peace and stability (and) economic opportunity, and we don’t view that as an America-only objective. We think it’s critical that we work with all the nations of this region to pursue what I hope are goals that everyone shares.”



McHugh said the Army conducted 160 engagements in the Pacific region last year.



But the Army’s future funding in the region is somewhat unclear with the Pentagon pursuing an Air-Sea Battle concept relying heavily on the Navy and Air Force to deal with high-tech anti-access weaponry — particularly that of China in the South China Sea.



“The critical problem right now is making sure that those who make the national military strategic decisions understand the availability of these Army forces,” McHugh said.



The Army now has an office where Air-Sea Battle is being formulated within the Pentagon, he said.



“As you look at this region — and I think people like (Adm. Samuel Locklear III, head of U.S. Pacific Command) would fully agree — you really can’t approach a meaningful, successful strategy in the Pacific without Army forces,” he said.



Twenty-two of 27 chiefs of defense in the region are part of their countries’ armies, officials have said.



“So the history shows the Army has long been a critical player here in the Pacific,” McHugh said. “I think the future will show that every bit as well.”

I think it will be interesting to see how this plays out… in MANY ways…  Your thoughts???



Comments

Now THIS is truly strange… — 20 Comments

  1. I think that it’s a good idea. The Aussies have been reliable allies and the Army plays a relatively minor role in the Pacific.

    The precedent isn’t troublesome to me. The Aussies have recruiting and retention problems and it binds us closer in terms of ops and acquisitions in a time when China is expanding in that region.

  2. I will be curious to see if this has an effect on the “USA based troops” in Australia plan. So far it’s one base being “shared” up in Darwin (Marines) with much bickering (as per the local news here) on who will pick up the costings for it all.

    Perhaps if it’s “but our guy is on THEIR team” it might change the playing field…

    Pax
    [speculating wildly]

  3. I understand the need to work together for common interests, but having an officer from another country in charge of our troops in a non-coalition setting is just odd…..heck, we sometimes have some interesting relationships in our own joint commands where it’s OUR Army, Navy, AF, Marines having non-traditional interservice reporting lines.

    Very, very odd indeed……

  4. I don’t know a lot about military codes, but it seems to me that the only way a foreign officer can assume any command is by a U.S. officer relinquishing the responsibility. That, to me, is something that only should be necessary in an extreme combat situation.

    I don’t like it and I feel for the troops that are under the authority of a general that has never sworn to protect the Constitution.

  5. Sounds odd to me and odder still is that I’ve not seen anything in our news about it either …

  6. Seems odd, but at the same time the closer our ties are the better things will be as China keeps pushing.

  7. Not surprising when you think about it.

    The Army just ran out of competent general officers.

    What?

    Gerry

  8. Nothing against the Aussie Military, especially when one considers that they have their version of Hillary as their Commander-in-Chief, but this REALLY doesn’t pass the Smell Test.

  9. It passes the smell test alright, Les. That smell is some really excellent wacky weed.

    This isn’t a coalition command since, as far as I recall, SEATO is kaput. I wonder what the asshats are using as justification for putting a foreign national (albeit an important ally) in the U.S. Army. It’s pretty obvious he can’t swear loyalty to Her Majesty’s Australian government and to the Constitution.

    WTFO? Maybe Julie can snoop out something?

  10. Doesn’t sit well with me, either, for many of the reasons already stated here – Constitutional authority & allegiance being a big one.

  11. Think this has been done in the past (WWII, Korea) and NATO. At flag rank level it probably works. Field grade, company grade? Hell no.

  12. I have served in a Combined Command, have seen Allied Commands.

    As long as they don’t think, that the Deputy Commander is in the Chain of Command, no problem.

    But if they think the Commander dies, and the Deputy replaces the American Officer – you have a big loser. The enlisted force don’t see that as lawful, Constitutional or even necessary.

    I like sharing the Pacific Defense with the real stake holders, all those countries sailing the seas and flying the skies… and I would never want not to fight along side our friends. But I don’t speak their language, know their dreams, and haven’t their political joys – they did outlaw firearm ownership for their peons.

    So, how does the Australian Officer remember Breaker Morant?

    He doesn’t think we can courts martial him for some offense like Tailhook, does he?

  13. Politics – both inside the DoD and external.

    It reads like he’s in the chain of command. If so, nothing against the Aussies, but IMO it’s a bad idea. Next time we want something from Japan, for example, or some other country are we going to put one of their people in charge of US troops?

  14. LL- That is a good point.

    Pax- Dunno, but I’m betting the US was quoted a ‘price’ for the support and it changed…

    FD- Yeah, wondering here too…

    Joey- Good question, and no answer here.

    Jess- He’s going to be the #2, he will not be in ‘overall’ charge.

    Julie- Thanks, that is a bit strange!

    Robert- Yep

    Gerry- I wonder…

    PH/Les/Don/Rev- yeah, Julie???

    WSF- all those were ‘joint’…

    Earl- Thanks, you’ve been there done that! Appreciate the input!

    Tim- Good question!

  15. My son, who graduates high school this year, was considering the military. I’ve told him, on on reflection he has agreed, that entering the service while the current group of idiots are in charge is not a good idea.

    This is yet another example why, as far as I’m concerned.

  16. I think the Aussies are generally all-right, and the ones I’ve met have been pretty tough bastards.

    I think it’s more for show than anything else.

    Thought for the day: Those Koalas look cute in pictures, but try climbing a tree with one and petting it.