Seems that ‘climate’ change is mysteriously going ‘away’…
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“Huge: A powerful climate alliance of the World Economic Forum, major companies, the UN, and banks is “at an end“.
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“Bill Gates is giving up on climate change …Breakthrough Energy, a joint venture between Bill Gates and a handful of other billionaires… is slashing much of its policy staff.”
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NASA GISS funding “terminated”?: “New NASA Chief Will Wind Down Climate Alarm Shop“.
Full list (another 30 items) HERE from Tom A. Nelson on X.
A number of folks, myself included, have been ‘suspicious’ of climate change since 2008, because we’ve dealt with actual climatologists, and/or taken part in test programs that measured certain things in the environment that didn’t ‘match’ what the climate change models said.
Also, we’ve got enough experience with models to question the so called ‘facts’ that mysteriously skewed to ‘match’ the models.
For example, good luck today finding any raw temperature data… Seems all that is now ‘somewhere’ else and not available.
Also, there has never been a discussion of the changes in the environment surrounding many of the ‘urban’ measurement locations, especially WRT the additional amounts of concrete/asphalt/buildings that tend to hold heat and will naturally show higher temps than 30-50 year old measurements in the same location.
Think what you like, but please at least take a look at the embedded links on Mr. Nelson’s post, and think about what they are actually saying…
YMMV, IANAL, I didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn last night either…
Enough of the sheep have figured out they’re getting fleeced and the scammers are taking the money and running while they still can. The scam has played itself out.
Watch for the next big “Huge crisis we must spend lots of your money on or we’re all doomed in 20 years” scam to appear, because it will.
Here in Central Florida I have a Davis weather station. Expensive. It’s primary mission is to collect data, not forecast. Best I’ve ever done with it was call my sister in New Orleans and forcefully tell her to get the hell out of town. It took official agencies 2 hours to raise that same alarm. But I digress.
I know what I went through to position my sensors to get the most accurate results. Wasn’t easy. Even found higher isn’t always better. My effort at all that make me shake my head when I read of the placement issues of official government arrays.
The famous Hadley CRUT tree ring data was pivotal in generating the first hockey stick. Apparently the Climate Scientist™ somehow managed to destroy the original dataset which apparently wasn’t backed up and then failed to make a record of the calculations performed on said data so it couldn’t be reconstructed.
But the resulting graph proves that we need to Take Steps.
The sumbitch not only kept his job he became an unimpeachable authority.
I remember the days of paper medical records. A physician who lost a patient file or altered a record without preserving the original and documenting the reason for the change in a separate and subsequent note in the record was presumed to be guilty if sued and could be harshly disciplined for failure to keep proper records.
When thinking become Religion instead, then the Science disappears.
Global Warming then became Climate Change….because the whole “Warming” things wasn’t…
Much like the whole Autism thing, the Vaccine thing, the Food Additive thing, it is a belief system rather than science based.
Like most religions and Fads and Fashions, they will ebb and flow…and none of them are about anything real.
Early 2000’s, there was a website that documented the official weather station locations. I signed up to upload pictures. One was in a park near me. There wasn’t a wooden enclosure with louvered sides anywhere I could find. But it had data sets. I figured it was a phantom site they invented data for.
Anthony Watts’ weather station project. Ah, yes, when his spotters found one on a bracket over a BBQ/smoker rig, one on an asphalt roof beside an AC unit, one on a tiny island of grass surrounded by cement at an airport, and a few other “winners.”
I was at an academic meeting and one of the speakers was the state climatologist for Louisiana. He pointed out that when they went from the Stephenson Screen (big white box with shutters on the sides) to the snug little plastic “beehive” containers, all the temps went up 1.5 F. I’d already been through the data “adjustment” from National Climate Research Center that messed up the temperature record. This was icing on the cake as far as my lack-of-faith in the temperature data.
The one at DCA was originally in the center the oval of grass in front of the Main (old) Terminal, admittedly a cool spot. New location was closer to the Potomac River where it was washed by jet exhaust. SURPRISE! Average temps rose.
Another weather station was moved to the exhaust ports of a bus company’s garage.
Love this clip.
Good riddance. One can take measures on their own that doesn’t require blind obedience to others wishes.
I am puzzled by the notion that an average change of a degree or even two over a long period could make a difference. In New Hampshire we live in temperatures from 20 or 30 degrees Fahrenheit below zero to 100 degrees above every year. So with a spread of 120 degrees, we have survived for quite some time. The glaciers covered where I live now up to a couple of miles thick in some areas, it wasn’t burning fossil fuels that changed that, or carbon footprint. The climate changes, and always has, taxing us more will not help at all.
In theory, some things can be very sensitive, and just happen to break.
In theory.
AGW is a combination of a physical model, with a behavioral model proposing a control that would adjust the physical system.
With behavioralist skills, we can tell that the proposed control/adjustment was always likely to never work. It was expensive, it required regimes stable over generations (and when have those been stable with serious expenses in play?), and it was always likely that the regimes implementing the policy would fail once they had run through enough generationally accumulated wealth for people to get hungry.
Physical modeling skills?
One method tells us that resolution of forecast probably should not exceed resolution of measurement.
One method tells us that it is at least difficult to measure a periodic effect over a very long time, by doing measurements during a short period of time.
We do have the ensembling method, that may be valid in meteorology. Scaling up in space and in time, is an interesting series of questions.
My personal view, is that if we are looking at stuff like el nino, which is clearly a bit related to current tectonic condition, there is a maybe unknown to fluid mechanics question of when tectonic plate movement means that you cannot extrapolate periodicity. Musk is gonna make it possible for us to maybe do some relevant experiments in zero G.
I’m kinda puzzled at the group consensus concluding that this was an area where we could know stuff, because I am not reproducing that conclusion. If we are proposing honest sane informed reasoning as the explanation, I am puzzled.
Back to behavior land, there’s a forensic inference that data and methods not available for testing or verification means hinky.
The psychological failure mode of “we are gonna die unless you do my magical rituals” can be trying to murder someone else who rejects one’s rituals. Aside from that, the effects of the magic carbon made it a proxy for human lives and wellbeing, and thus a legitimating ideology for mass murder.
Anyhow, I would expect some more bad behavior. I also think that a lot of AGW believers in the academic world (also critical theory, etc.) had come to hate the ‘uneducated’ for not participating, and that they were already trying to murder the uneducated. That is the lens through which I understand the last ten or twenty years. (Also, I think BLM and the african-American studies crowd are effectively white nationalists. I think rejecting a white nationalist agenda requires rejecting the idea that academic specialists in minority studies actually represent minority demographics in any way.)
All- You raise good points! TXRed- I remember Stephenson Screen measuring sites! There was one at the Airport, and we got ‘lessons’ on how to maintain it (e.g. keep the @#$% wasps out of it…
Liberty- Yes! Of course ‘they’ say that”s not valid because it’s not ‘proven’ or ‘documented’… sigh
“Climate change” isn’t going away. It’s just being put on the back burner till the left is back in power when it will be resurrected. It’s too useful as a means of control to be discarded.
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Agree with all on the climate change hoax. Sadly, the hoax diminishes worthy efforts, such as air pollution and accurate weather prediction.
Good news.
I’ve got a way to prove or disprove the “Climate Change” model, but the people pushing it will never agree to the test.
Input the temperature at Jan 1900 from any location into the “Climate Change” model. Then step month by month and year by year for 100 years, and see how the predictions from the model match the historical data. If they don’t match to one tenth of a degree, (where we’re assured disaster will occur), then the “Climate Change” model is disproven.
The point is to see if their fancy models match historical data, which they can’t fake or handwave away.
There is a record. In the ice.