Teh Funny, kinda sorta…

Uncle Jay sent me the link to this YouTube for comment…



Thankfully nobody died in this one, but it does happen.  Trained pilots flying with G-suits (AKA Speed Pants) can routinely do up to 10G for short periods of time. The Red Bull Air Races are a good example of that…

I personally ‘have’ knocked myself out before during an orientation flight in a TF-18.  Even wearing speed pants and ‘preparing’ myself, I was a ‘bit’ over-enthusiastic on the roll/pull and hit about 7.5G and was out like a light… The pilot recovered and laughed his ass off at me for that one.  It probably took less than 5 sec to put me out, no ‘greyout’ warning, just wham, bam, goodnight.  It was probably 30 seconds before I was fully recovered…

He took over and ‘demonstrated’ greyout and redout to me with positive and negative g’s. It’ truly strange to ‘watch’ your vision go down to a tunnel like looking through a soda straw…

There are numerous reports in the military on this, and one of the more egregious ones were two CF-18 pilots a number of years back that came off Christmas stand-down and immediately went out and did a 1V1 high-G interaction.  At one point apparently BOTH pilots G-locked out and the aircraft passed canopy to canopy with appx 18 inches clearance between the rudders and canopies. They only discovered the NMAC on review of the HUD films.  Sadly another ‘probable’ case of G-lock was the loss of the P-51 at the Reno Air Races last year.   

This is a pretty good link/explanation of G-lock and it’s impact, by Dr. Dougal Watson.  

G- TOLERANCE

Centrifuge and Flying studies have identified man’s tolerance to +Gz with reasonable accuracy. Figure 1 is a +Gz v. Time graph demonstrating the tolerance to +Gz of relaxed subjects not using any G-protection device or manoeuvre.

The area above and to the right of the solid black curve represents the +Gz and Time at which unconsciousness (on average) occurs. The area between this curve and the grey curve is the region of visual disturbances (greyout and blackout) without loss of consciousness. Below and to the left of the grey curve is the +Gz/Time zone where no visual symptoms or G-LOC occur in the average, unprotected person.

The line ‘C’ on figure 1 represents a gradual onset of +Gz at a rate of around 0.5G per second and shows that visual symptoms are likely after about 5 seconds and Loss of Consciousness about 1 second later at +4Gz. Line D shows a slower rate of +Gz onset, in this case visual symptoms will occur after 16 seconds (+4Gz) and G-LOC will intervene after 22 seconds when the acceleration will be +5Gz. Rapid onset of sustained +Gz, as shown in line B will result in G-LOC after about 4 seconds without any warning visual symptoms. However, very rapid onset +Gz that is not sustained at a high level, line A, may well result in no visual disturbances or G-LOC. This last feature is what saves many of our unlimited aerobatic pilots from suffering G-LOC more often, although they pull substantial G they do so for only very short periods

Full article HERE

Of note, you can also get ‘redout’ with negative G’s…

h/t Uncle Jay


Comments

Teh Funny, kinda sorta… — 10 Comments

  1. It is fun pushing it to tunnel vision. I had pretty high g tolerance then had to go on blood pressure meds and lost most of it after that

  2. Re the Reno crash,From what I’ve read in the EAA publications, the crash was the result of an elevator trim tab departing the aircraft, causing a sudden pitchup causing either pilot blackout or even seat failure. Apparently at the high speeds the racing aircraft achieve, a lot of down trim is required and failure of the trim system proved catastrophic in this case.

  3. I remember a cute reporterette going up with the Blue Angels in PGH.
    She screamed, G-locked and puked.

    When she got down on the ground she want to go back up.

    I fell a little bit in love with her.

    Gerry

  4. Rev- Yep, NO warning is a possibility with high G onset now capable of the aircraft.

    Anon- Yeah I wouldn’t want to try it today.

    Old Surfer- That too. And yes they positively load them

    Stephen- Understood.

    Gerry- LOL

  5. Even in my 150 Aerobat I never pulled enough to conk myself out.

    Otherwise I probably wouldn’t be sitting here typing this…..