Aluminum Overcast…

Gah… Figures, the one morning I don’t check, the damn post doesn’t…  Sorry!

Well, I played hooky yesterday afternoon, and snuck out to meet Stretch at Manassas Airport to get a look at a piece of history…

As always, clicken to embiggen…

Aluminum overcast nose

Front view

In this picture, the older boy in the red shirt was asking his mother if he could go next, but the little boy was up the ladder and gone… LOL

Aluminum Overcast is a B-17G that was delivered in late 1945 and never saw action in the war.  It was restored and donated to the EAA in 1993 and flies and conducts tours around the United States.  Of the 12,732 B-17s produced between 1935 and May of 1945, 4,735 were lost during combat missions.

When you first climb in, to your left is the Navigator table, and forward of that is the bombardier position.  The bombardier had the only swivel chair, and was apparently adapted from a secretarial chair… The wooden box on the right is the ammo box, which only held 600 rounds.  There was one for each gun position.

AO BN chair

The bus driver’s position…  They controlled the four Wright Cyclone R1820 radial engines, and did their best to keep the crew alive.

AO Cockpit

The ‘plank’ as it was called.  The only way from the front to the back of the airplane through the bomb bay.  Of note those rails weren’t IN the actual wartime birds.  And as an OBTW, 80lbs of weight on the bomb bay doors caused them to automatically open…

AO Bombay

If you look at the picture above, you can see some yellow writing on the forward bulkhead of the bomb bay.  This is a close up of that… It’s one of two (one port, one stbd) HAND CRANKS for the main landing gear!  So no rails, 80lbs would open the bomb bay doors, and you had to lean out with nothing to hold on to or brace with and hand crank the gear up or down… Lovely…

AO Gear crank

Radio operator’s station, the radio was an HF, with another stack of radios behind and on the right side of the fuselage.

AO Radio 1

And moving aft we come to the waist gunner’s position… These are in the K-6 mounts, which were used to allow the guns to function through the plexiglas inserts.  These have been modified with the Sperry Automatic Compensating Sight, which required the gunner to enter the altitude, airspeed and then keep the target in the optical window so the gun could ‘auto correct’ the bullet flight.

AO 50

A close up through the sight.  Sorry for the lousy picture.

AO 50 sight pic

Looking forward in the tube from the aft door, you can see the offset 50cal waist guns.  On earlier models, there were no windows, so the waist gunners were in the slipstream at all times.

AO tube fwd

The tail gunner… Main requirement?  LITTLE!  5’2” and around 100lbs was the ‘average’ tail gunner… I cannot imagine trying to crawl back through the fuselage just to get there, much less try to crawl forward under fire/maneuvering…

AO TG mann

And if things went totally South… This was the only way out for the tail gunner… That door is on the starboard aft part of the fuselage, wrapping down the side of the fuselage.  It’s ‘maybe’ 2 feet high.

AO tail escape hatch

A view from the rear, pretty airplane!  And VERY well maintained!

AO aft view

And the ball turret.  This one too another little skinny guy, who effectively had to lay down and prop his legs up over the guns and shoot between his legs.  He also had the Automatic Compensating Sight (It was actually developed for the belly gun).

AO Ball ext

You can go to the EAA site HERE, and watch and hear a video of Aluminum Overcast in flight.  Beautiful music (if you’re an aviator)!

Kudos to the EAA and the dedicated volunteers that not only maintain the bird, but the ground crew that travels with the bird.  Without these fine folks, NONE of this would be happening.

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Comments

Aluminum Overcast… — 21 Comments

  1. Cool pics… we had a P51, and others up here in Leesburg today. P51 put on a pretty good show!

  2. Steve- I saw a 51 go bombing out of Manassas as I was driving up, wonder if it was the same one?

    LL- That she is!

    Differ- Yep, sadly I didn’t get to go up.

  3. One year during the Seattle Seafair, it was a Boeing anniversary year. There was an amazing flyby of about everything Boeing ever made. The people who keep all the old stuff flying are a special group. I. for one, am grateful.

  4. I’ve been lucky enough to see about four or five Flying Forts at various airshows in my life. Going inside a B-17 gives one new respect for the guys that flew in them over Der Vaterland during the Big One (and my Ol’ Man was one of those guys).

  5. Rev- That they were, but also very vulnerable, especially the control cables that ran to the tail section and were totally unprotected…

  6. I’ve mentioned before here that my dad was a B-17 pilot with the 447th Bomb Group and flew 35 combat missions over Europe. He and another pilot, Bob Rohde…

    http://www.447bg.com/Rohde%20Crew.htm

    …were acquainted before the war as they were dating a couple of gals that were sisters. Their individual paths started out very differently. My dad was drafted and was about four weeks into combat medic training when they passed around the Air Corps applications. Mr. Rohde was walking down Market Street in San Francisco and walked into the Recruiting Office. My dad flew his first mission on January 2, 1945. Mr. Rohde flew his last at the end of February.

    Some years after my dad had passed away, I had the good fortune to sit a talk with Mr. Rohde at a mini-447th reunion in Sacramento, CA when Fuddy Duddy came through on tour…

    http://lyonairmuseum.org/2012/lyon-air-museum-b-17-flying-fortress-fuddy-duddy-in-history-takes-flight-event-feb-11/

    Mr. Rohde told me how one day he was sitting on his bunk at the 447th and happened to look up to see who was coming through the door. “Well, whaddya know. Guess who? (my dad). He also related a story (which I think took place here in the U.S.) where he had a conversation with his ball turret gunner, who made the off-hand remark “Yeah, skipper, you oughta come back and try it sometime”. Mr. Rohde agreed. On a flight a short time later, he turned the B-17 over to his co-pilot and went back to the ball turret. (For those who don’t know, the guns have to be pointed straight down to bring the access hatch up into the plane.) He told me “Oh man, when they closed that hatch behind me, I couldn’t see any of the plane, and for a half second, I just KNEW that ball had fallen off!

    Before the war, Mr. Rohde was employed by Shell Oil. Another war vet who returned to Shell Oil (as VP) was Jimmy Doolittle. When the pilot for Mr. Doolittle’s plushed out corporate B-25 moved on, Mr. Rohde took the job.

    Here are a couple of links relating some of Mr. Rohde’s more memorable war adventures (they will download as PDF’s)…

    http://www.447bg.com/Story%20of%20Umbriago.pdf

    http://www.447bg.com/A%20NIGHT%20TO%20REMEMBER.pdf

    My only frustration is that I have so far not been able to track down a photo of my dad and his crew.

  7. I just now happened to read the Fuddy Duddy web site in the above link. They provide a detailed history of the actual B-17, but fail to mention that the colors are that of the original Fuddy Duddy from the 447th.

    http://www.447bg.com/42-97400.htm

  8. RHT- Thanks for the update, and sorry that you haven’t been able to find any pics. And thanks for the links! Great history and I’m glad that it’s being kept alive.

    Rick- You’re welcome!

  9. The wife and I were in the house on a Saturday afternoon a couple of weeks ago when we heard radial engines. Went out on the porch and watched a B-17G fly overhead! So…we drove over to Stinson Field in San Antonio and took the opportunity to purchase tickets to fly on the “Texas Raiders”. Cramped, noisy, hot, rough, and one of the sweetest experiences in my life.