TBT…

Detachments…

Better known as “Dets” always were, and still are the bane of an aircrew’s existence, or a welcomed break depending on what was going on where…

If you were a straight stick crew, you might get one or two dets a year. If you were a ‘projects’ det, you might get one or two a MONTH…

And of course they weren’t usually to the ‘fun’ places, unless you had a pretty twisted version of fun…

Midway, Kwajalein, Adak, Kodiak, Eielson, Misawa, Keflavik, Kinloss, Stavanger, Thule, Lajes, Rota, Roosy Roads, etc…

Two days, two weeks, maybe a month, depending on what or ‘who’ we might be chasing.

One of the constants was always the maintenance crew that went out with us. Five or six sailors with enough cross training to fix pretty much anything on the airplane. They did the servicing, maintenance, required inspections, or anything else that came up.

VP-24 maint det

Without them, none of the dets would ever have succeeded…

But there were times when other folks stepped up and played a major part in those successes…

One det comes to mind- In the late 80’s we needed to take two West Coast P-3s to Iceland to support some testing. Simple, right?

Not so much. In addition to the seven hour time difference, there was a ‘flap’ in process when we started setting up the short notice det. So billeting had to be arranged, and fuel, and parking spots (critical issue), and working spaces in the operations center (critical issue), and the right comms codes (critical issue).

Rooms were located out in town (ouch, per diem cost just went through the roof), overflow parking was arranged (out in east bumf**k),  but no joy with comms or workspaces…

I walked into our secretary’s office grumbling about the problems I was having, and Barb said words to the effect of, “What’s got your tit in a wringer?” (She was married to a gunner’s mate, so she could out cuss most sailors). I explained the dead ends I’d run into, and headed off to the afternoon staff meeting.

The next morning I stagger in about 0600, planning on continuing to try to get things sorted. I walk into the break room to make coffee, and there is already a fresh pot! 🙂

So I grab a cup and head to my office, only to hear Barb call me. I stop, go back to her office, and she hands me two Navy messages and a page of notes. It’s authorization to draw comms from NAS Brunswick enroute, and the other message assigns us a space in the operations center.

As I read through the notes, I see she has provided phone numbers, points of contact that are current, and some other information. I look at her with a stunned expression and ask, “How?”

I’ll never forget how she patted her Rolodex (which was a BIG one), and said, “Never underestimate the power of the secretary.”

She had simply called the Admiral’s secretary in Kef, then the Admiral’s secretary in Maine and they worked the secretary’s network in less than an hour to get us everything I’d been working on for five days.  Sigh…

After than, I just took stuff to Barb, and asked her to ‘fix’ it. But I also made sure to:

a. NEVER piss her off.

b. Always bring her some kind of souvenir from the det.

c. Always try to answer any questions she brought to me as quickly as I could.

d. Gave her (and her replacement) good chocolates every Christmas.

Good times… Sigh…

Oh yeah, and everything worked like a champ on the det, EXCEPT the system we were testing… What a PITA!!!

Comments

TBT… — 21 Comments

  1. I learned early on that if you had a good — really good — secretary and a good CPO that your life was much much simpler…

  2. Dang, you always seem to bring up the best (and worst) memories. The one det that stands out in my memory is when I was in VX-1 in the mid 80’s. I wasn’t on the det, I was working out of the operations office doing a lot of the background work as you described. We had sent a plane off to sunny Bermuda (yay!) that morning for a project test phase. Flight leaves as planned, no problems. Just before they land in Bermuda we get a flash priority message cancelling the test and tasking the plane to support a high value target prosecution in the Iceland op area (What? You’ve gotta be ******* me!). The plane lands, refuels, and takes off for Iceland (I’m gettin’ too old for this crap). All the crew had for clothes were a bunch of shorts and Hawaiian flowerdy shirts, flip flops, and sunscreen. We had to task a second plane to follow them up to Iceland with winter clothes that spouses and shipmates were able to throw together. As the operations petty officer in charge of scheduling, I was arse deep in paperwork and phone calls for hours. But we got it done.

  3. First week in grad school I was warned, “There are three people you never p*ss off: your IT rep, your archivist, and your departmental secretary.” A critical life lesson indeed.

  4. I used to look at other depts which had civilian secretaries, and they ALWAYS had the best coffee mess, usually with donuts. Folks seemed (from our side of the fence, anyway) happier, too. We only seemed to have a grumpy Chief and a grumpier (or paranoid) CWO3.

  5. Very cool. Thanks for sharing. I learns something every day. And yes, you were good not to piss off Barb. And to be kind.

  6. No matter how brassy your balls, or how big you ego, they are that big because of all the little people scurrying around behind you making you look great. You were smart to realize that.

  7. True Story: My Dad’s secretary at REDACTED had served time in West Virginia for man slaughter. She had killed her abusive husband when he had turned on her young son. Now THAT was a smooth running office.

    Re. bringing back souvenirs from TDY: The Austria/Swiss/Netherlands branch was also known as The Chocolate Branch. One new eager up-and-comer returned from those countries WITHOUT A SINGLE SQUARE of chocolate for the support staff. Guess who didn’t get his per diem vouchers processed for MONTHS.

  8. Ian- Oh so true!

    Ray- Feb det from Hawaii to Kwaj, diverted two hours out to Adak! BTDT, didn’t get off the bird till they brought us arctic gear!!!

    WSF- Oh HELL yes!

    TxRed- Agreed! 🙂

    Rev- Because NOBODY was going to argue with them about dues…LOL

    Fargo- I’m dumb, but NOT stupid… 🙂

    CP- Learned that as an E3…

    Stretch- Wow…LOL

    drjim- Oh, I got reminded of that MULTIPLE times… sigh

  9. OldNFO, I’m sure they were a great crew, but you’ve got some sailors there scouting for Indians.
    Then again, I was always proud of my salute. Early in my enlistment, I saw a (young, of course–we all were) Marine execute the most textbook-perfect salute I ever saw, determined to emulate it, and did. If you’re going to do it, do it right.
    To this day, it grates on my nerves to watch a movie & see somebody using a salute to shade their eyes, or rendering one in the British fashion. Don’t get me started about uncovered sailors or Marines saluting indoors…
    I reckon that means my life is pretty damned easy, if I can be bothered by such things. It is, & I’m thankful.

  10. Lived on Kwajalein for 3 years in the early 70’s. Beautiful island, nice scuba and snorkeling, decent Officer club, small but interesting golf course.

    Not a lot for TDY personnel to do otherwise, not many free range females, lack of shopping.

    Of course, for souvenirs, you could always bring home a handful of various bullets or go to Ebeye to shop for stuff from Japan.

  11. Keflavik…that’s a place I recognize because of my dad who spent 16 months there in ’42-’43 curtesy of the USAAF. Enjoy reading your blog a lot.

  12. I didn’t go on Dets but while in Napoli I would get sent off with my SNB-5 to various places a carrier would be visiting so the desk Jockeys could get their 4.0 hours a month. I left Naples one time for a RON-6 at Piza. Before I got back to home base I was routed all over the damned Med following that ship! 46 days later I finally got home. Started out with 52 bucks per diem, an wound up bumming money off the various pilots and eating in Spanish, French, and Greek military mess halls and signing all kinds of promissory notes that Uncle Sam was supposed to honor. Don’t know if he did, but I paid all the pilots back eventually! Only had the one pair of dungarees and a couple changes of skivvies and socks. Wound up taking baths behind various fueling depot using the one five pound box of USNavy all purpose powdered hand cleaner. Remember that stuff with the built in grit? Not fun to use in places where the sun don’t shine! Ah the good old days!

  13. Ev- You were on a permanent det…LOL And I remember a 3 day that turned into 26 days…

  14. I learned the same thing in a university setting. Department secretaries — at least the veterans — can hop right over deans and provosts. Don’t try to do it yourself – give to the secretary and be super nice to him or her.

    • Yep. My wife is the Office Manager at a major magnet high school, and if she’s not there, ‘aint NUTHIN’ gettin’ done!

      And she’s on her third new principal in three years, and has been graoning about having to break in another new one!