I told you so, but…
New study reveals coronavirus likely arrived in the US around Christmas
Lauren Ancel Meyers, a professor of integrative biology and statistics and data sciences who leads the UT Austin COVID-19 Modeling Consortium, worked with her team of researchers to extrapolate the extent of the COVID-19 epidemic in Wuhan and Seattle based on retested throat swabs taken from patients who were suffering from influenza-like illnesses during January in Wuhan and during late February and early March in Seattle.
From a research paper by University of Texas, full article, HERE.
Actual research paper, HERE. Published in the Lancet E Clinical Medicine edition. Which also backs up the ‘discredited’ Stanford study back in March/April of previous swabs, HERE.
Personally, I think we in north Texas had it sweep through in late January, based on how many of the ‘listed’ symptoms we experienced, but I think we had milder cases of it. Ironically, four of us have taken numerous doses of antimalarial drugs over the years…
I’m sure the ‘they’ in the science community will be marshalling their ‘experts’ to disprove this study… Sigh…
Yep. Pretty sure we (a parish in Connecticut, with one parishioner who had travelled on business in China) had it come through in February. Several of us, including yours truly, were feeling pretty poorly for a few weeks…
Sounds about right. My boss reported very early this past February that he met with a city commission official, who had reported they had visited the Wuhan province during the Thanksgiving holidays (or thereabouts). They reported becoming sick, but not overwhelming symptoms sick, maybe the weak flu and forgot about it. Only to find a month later about COVID being a reality.
Yep.
My family had symptoms in January. We’ve not been tested yet, but I’d wager we had mild cases then.
Let’s get our country back.
My older daughter had it for the first half of February, and I came down with it from mid-Feb to early March. Lasted three weeks, and had several days of hypoxia in the middle. Most of the published symptoms were present; it wasn’t fun. Nobody around here knew what it was, at the time, so of course I worked during those three weeks.
yeah about that time an “unknown respiratory” illness went thru here and the university where i work. cadre and cadets alike were ill with “bronchitis-like” symptoms of “unknown origin”. they recovered fully in two to three weeks. meanwhile my neighbor got the same when a group of german engineers came to his work to hook up new machinery. they were sick when they arrived and the illness ran thru our community in early march. since then zero cases. we have dozens of Chinese students including known PLA. still haven’t figured that one out.
I normally don’t like posting but this is my 1st hand info on this.
I work for a company bought by a Chinese company last year. The first week of December one of the Chinese supervisors came over from a visit to family in China sick as a dog. He visited our facility and was deathly ill, so much so that they took him to a local hospital and he was diagnosed with unknown flu. two dozen workers from our facility came down with it over the next 2 weeks, including me.
Given the symptoms I had and what they claim wuhn flu causes I’m sure that was what he brought across.
I’d say even earlier, as the local area I live in has a high number of ChiCom students who went home for Thanksgiving and came back hacking and coughing.
Funny, my wife got the long-term hacking and coughing in mid-December after visiting a doctor’s office where one said student was… hacking and coughing, the first week of December.
She spent 4 months hacking and coughing, but wasn’t able to get a Covidiocracy test (like I’d trust one of the CDC ones) because she didn’t fit parameters, that being sick before the CDC said she could be sick with Corona-Chan.
Yet she still trusted the CDC until recently.
Sigh.
It’s been stateside since at least the first week after November. Probably earlier. Why? Well, seems some of the students brought family members back with them and now it’s come out that they were all escaping some flu-plague-thingy that was already by Thanksgiving last year reaping souls like crazy in Wuhan, but wasn’t being talked about officially because Communist China.
Yay rapid international travel, yay. I think Heinlein wrote about this in several of his books, especially “Friday,” where plague or flu or something would burst out of… China and be carried to space colonies and such, because of slacking of quarantine procedures and rapidity of travel.
All- Thanks for the additional information. Of course ‘none’ of us are scientists, so nothing we say counts… Grrr…
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the absolute latest was Chinese new year.
January 25, 2020.
That is the big event was every one in china and
surrounds goes off for two weeks or more for
visits and vacations. It could have been out
and about before that but after that no question.
Look at all the early hot spots for infections
compare those with Chinese New Years travel.
Here in eastern MA it was the big biotech conference
in early March that made it ground zero for spread.
So after those dates its already a fact. How much
before its only a question.
Eck!
I came down with “something’ around 09FEB. Whatever it was, it RIPPED through our building at work. Some people were out of work for a week. Mine lasted a couple of days, but it took a month to get my stamina back. My wife got sick soon after. Hers lasted a week. She was MISERABLE. My youngest son got it soon after that; something akin to what I had; it lasted a couple of days. He bounced back like a Superball. There was the usual “seasonal flu” going around. We all assumed that’s what we had. I’ve only had the flu once, but can honestly say that what I had WASN’T the flu.
This thing got going at my workplace right after THANKSGIVING.
I’d say that what we say counts for more than what the “scientists” have been saying. After all; we’re not being paid to reach a desired outcome…
I had all the symptoms Feb 20-25. Dog-shit bad enough couldn’t take the wife to PT and she wanted me to the ER but I wouldn’t go. Bad enough I marked the calendar just in case of whatever. Later, I understood.
My fiance came down with a really bad upper respiratory infection right after Thanksgiving. It took her three weeks to fully recover. It was going around Indy at the time. In May her doctor tested her and she was positive for coronavirus antibodies. No proof the antibodies had been caused by SARS-CoV-2 specifically, but they took some blood anyhow. Her doctor said a majority of her patients who had been sick with a URI back in December had also tested positive.
I don’t doubt the timeline of early December one bit based on conversations with my wife, son and good friend, all physicians, two of which are ER docs. Interesting as well, all of them have been exposed to covid positive patients, none of them have taken ill. I had a severely runny nose on a couple of occasions this spring, but nothing else, even though I have interacted several times a week with lots of people coming into the shooting range, including Chinese folks of student age.
Ah what the heck we’re all gonna die anyway sooner or later – if this virus doesn’t get us the next one will = or we will get boiled alive by glow bull warming or drowned in the rising seas – or whatever. Maybe some of us will survive until the next ice age! At least my second favorite pizza buffet is back open for business 🙂
“It’s been stateside since at least the first week after November.”
Probably true.
All- Thanks for filling in more blanks.
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I probably had it Jan-Feb, a mild but lingering case, with one or two days of low grade fever. So low-grade that I only noticed when the fever broke. I’d been around people who had been in Colorado and who had traveled elsewhere over Christmas Break.
Had the symptoms back at the start of the year, including one day of dizziness-inducing hypoxia. I bounced back; the only day I called in to work was the dizzy day. In the months since then, severalfriends and coworkers HAVE tested positive, but they all to a man or woman recovered completely, and reported only mild flu-like symptoms.
It was probably brought over the border in this area by our esteemed undocumented workforce, with whom I and my coworkers have daily “professional contact.”
No, I’ve never had a test and don’t intend to, unless work requires it (and pays for it); I don’t wish to get chalked up as another number in their tallies for public fear inducement.
There is a physician here, in Abilene, who has been trying to investigate the possibility Covid-19 was here perhaps as early as November.