Conversation we’ve been having in a little discussion group about Socialists/Communists…
Anyone who has studied Russian or Chinese history knows this…
And Seattle went the same way NYC did… They now have a socialist mayor, Katie Wilson, who has NO experience. Her speech is HERE, and if you go six minutes in, she starts talking about her ‘agenda’. And it’s truly scary…
Redistribution of ‘wealth’, food for all, housing for all, progressive tax options, new taxes on businesses making over $7M a year, etc. But some of the specifics echo what Mandami has said, like control of grocery stores (90 days notice to close one and ‘preventing’ closure of ones that are poor performers), among other things.
I’m just glad I’m not living out there…
I want to share what EL said in our chat about the differences between capitalism and socialism…
What these effete, moronic savants fail to understand is that wealth is a collective figment of human imagination driven by our innate avarice. Scarcity does not make something valuable; desire, however, makes something scarce expensive. Our collective desire makes something easily produced common and relatively inexpensive while also making the producers wealthy. People say they will kill for a morning cup of coffee, but it’s only $3.95 at Starbucks (medium roast Pike Place). The Starbucks market capitalization is $98.23 billion.
What is ironic is that the atheistic Marxist has a Biblical view of wealth: they believe the total amount of wealth in the world is fixed, and that the evil wealthy stole it. But the fixed wealth proposition is an easily exposed lie: at its peak around 150 AD, the approximately 70 million people in the Roman Empire were worth about $43.4 billion dollars (2008 analysis by economists Walter Scheidel and Steven J. Friese). Yet according to the renown scholar, Google, the 450.4 million people in the European Union, roughly the same land as the Roman Empire, are worth $80 trillion. And the Romans didn’t have coffee.
Because wealth is a figment of the imagination, it cannot be redistributed; but it can be destroyed by crushing dreams and aspirations. What can be distributed, however, is knowledge: the knowledge of how to recognize opportunities, of how to develop and manufacture products; and of building businesses to market and distribute products. But the Marxist decree capitalism to be inhumane and reject learning and teaching its principles, means, and methods. Then, in their utopian dreams and worldly ignorance, they propose seizing the means of production and placing it under state control. Bureaucrats, however, get paid whether something is produced and put on the shelf or not, and the dream-denied populace, reduced to state controlled serfdom with worthless ration cards, starve in dark, cold, dingy state provided cells called apartments.
Capitalism exploits human desires, dreams, inventiveness, and energy to create a robust economy. It’s potential excesses are tempered by another human, innate trait: altruism.
Marxism, with what amounts to the economic paradigm of ant or bee colonies, rejects and crushes human instinct, with predictable and inevitable results. Forcing an oversize square peg into a round hole leaves neither a square peg nor a round hole; both are irreparably damaged.
This in a nutshell is pretty much the genesis of the quote, you can vote yourself into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out of it.
What happens next in both places is yet to be seen…

“a Biblical view of wealth”. I’d like an explanation of that.
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I was born poor white in the late 50s in California last by 6 years of 3 kids. We all worked to support the family and as we graduated HS we were shown the door to find life and a job. I went to work for the phone company and go to college after I graduated HS.
I worked for 4 years in the Black Slums of South Central LA. I saw people on Welfare and Food Stamps. The area was highly dangerous but people lived in houses that had much more then I ever had growing up.
I met my wife at college. I finished Electrical Engineering and she was in Finance. She was from the Bay Area and did not like LA so we moved to the Silicon Valley.
When I went for my MBA I learned economics as it was not hard. My wife and my Sister thought I would have a hard time but math is easy. I also looked at various experts from the past and today such a Friedman and Sowell.
Socialism is a way to Communism. Marxism is the same as Communism. None of it works and it will die as it is used in various cities.
Education is the USA has been dumbed down into elementary school to teachers and professors giving propaganda courses but no real teaching. Until colleges get money pulled by the government at all levels for what they are doing, and schools change to allow for school choice at k-12 there always will be dumbing down of the kids.
Me and my wife had to tutor our two sons through HS in each class to teach them properly. Once out they decided on Trade Schools. My Sister-In-Law did Homeschool and her two kids are much smarter then the ones that are around them in the workplace.
Wealth indeed. Invest in precious metals–brass and lead–and pray you never have to “spend” them. If that day ever comes, just for starters, rest assured that the folks who work at the utility companies won’t be going to work. And Starbucks (if not on strike) will be closed.
Just for the record, I have only been to Starbucks a few times when riding with someone else. I buy the big can of Folgers when it’s on sale.
Please explain to the IRS that my wealth is a figment of their imagination.
History shows the biggest promoters of Communism are either those that will wield the ruthless power, or be the first accused of subverting the vision, executed, and piling their bodies with those starved for the “good” of the masses.
Personally, I think anyone that promotes Communism in the United States is a traitor, and dealt with in the appropriate manner.
I am sure this won’t be popular…
I just can’t help but wonder When
“come out of her” will register with people.
Ed- My ‘understanding’, FWIW, is that wealth is a gift from God that can be a blessing and a potential source of spiritual danger. True wealth is ultimately spiritual, rather than material possessions.
JG- Agreed! One has to ‘teach’ them ourselves.
RHT- Point…
Gerry- Yeah, right…
Jess- Concur.
Pepe- No idea…
What should truly be scary is America will see what happens in NYC and Seattle and NOT learn from it. What is REALLY disturbing is how badly “socialism” can fail SO often in SO many places yet consistently continues to exist and often thrive politically. The fact that it continues to exist is proof we are not an intelligent species, merely a clever one.
Communism/Marxism/Socialism provides no incentive to invent, improve, nor even take proper care of anything. If you don’t own anything, if you cannot improve your lot in life or that of others, why put forth an effort. Everything spirals downhill from there.
Because the United States incentivizes developing products, improving products, and private ownership, we have products produced by or dreamed up and pushed by Musk, Edison, Whitney, Browning, Jobs, Ellison, Bezos, and millions of others.
Dan- True…dammit.
WN- No it doesn’t, that is why they steal from others… sigh
There are stories in the local news which describe business owners as very concerned about what this “election” will mean, some are already planning to move. With the videos and interviews that are openly available about the “mayor”, I will suggest the people who voted for her will get what they deserve, because of their ignorance of history, but no one else in the city deserves it. And that is based on her lack of any relevant work experience, let alone management. For the political view she has, I will say that Jess is on point.