Cold War, my ass…

Another one from the mil-email net!


As we used to say in Aviation, “photos affirm”…


So here are a few photos…


An ‘innocent’ little fishing trawler, right???



It’s actually one of many Russian AGIs that we used to sight world wide attempting to ‘collect’ against us.  This particular one used to hang out near Holy Loch, Scotland…


Hm… That Bow section looks a ‘bit’ weird…



Oh my, just look at that, I ‘wonder’ what those could be???


Oh, maybe a sonar dome and a torpedo tube???



Or TWO torpedo tubes…


Yep, peaceful fisherman, nothing to see here…


Cold war my ass!


And y’all wonder why we were on edge with these guys!!!

WTFO???

From Yahoo News… HERE is the article

Penn Judge: Muslims Allowed to Attack People for Insulting Mohammad

COMMENTARY | Jonathon Turley, a law professor at George Washington University, reports on a disturbing case in which a state judge in Pennsylvania threw out an assault case involving a Muslim attacking an atheist for insulting the Prophet Muhammad.
Judge Mark Martin, an Iraq war veteran and a convert to Islam, threw the case out in what appears to be an invocation of Sharia law.
The incident occurred at the Mechanicsburg, Pa., Halloween parade where Ernie Perce, an atheist activist, marched as a zombie Muhammad. Talaag Elbayomy, a Muslim, attacked Perce, and he was arrested by police.
Judge Martin threw the case out on the grounds that Elbayomy was obligated to attack Perce because of his culture and religion. Judge Martin stated that the First Amendment of the Constitution does not permit people to provoke other people. He also called Perce, the plaintiff in the case, a “doofus.” In effect, Perce was the perpetrator of the assault, in Judge Martin’s view, and Elbayomy the innocent. The Sharia law that the Muslim attacker followed trumped the First Amendment.
Words almost fail.
The Washington Post recently reported on an appeals court decision to maintain an injunction to stop the implementation of an amendment to the Oklahoma state constitution that bans the use of Sharia law in state courts. The excuse the court gave was that there was no documented case of Sharia law being invoked in an American court. Judge Martin would seem to have provided that example, which should provide fodder for the argument as the case goes through the federal courts.
The text of the First Amendment could not be clearer. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof-” It does not say “unless somebody, especially a Muslim, is angered.” Indeed Judge Martin specifically decided to respect the establishment of a religion, in this case Islam.
That Judge Martin should be removed from the bench and severely sanctioned goes almost without saying. He clearly had no business hearing the case in the first place, since he seems to carry an emotional bias. He also needs to retake a constitutional law course. Otherwise, a real can of worms has been opened up, permitting violence against people exercising free speech.
It should be noted that another atheist, dressed as a Zombie Pope, was marching beside the Zombie Muhammad. No outraged Catholics attacked him.

Is THIS what our Country is coming to?  Has PCism gone too far?  Personally, I think it has, especially if you are a WASP (White Anglo Saxon Protestant) male… ANYTHING we say or do is now pretty much illegal, or soon will be with this administration and the judges they are putting in place.

And DHS is pretty determined to label all of us bitter clingers, and ex-military as domestic terrorists; and if we’re Christian, that’s just another nail in our coffins… 

I’m really getting scared about where we are heading, and even my daughters (early 30’s) are bitching at me about what is going on. They vote, but they are afraid most of their peers won’t, or will vote on soundbites, rather than issues…

Honest Gun Owner Meme…

I was tagged by Nancy, over at Excels At Nothing, with a follow-on to the Honest Gun Owner Meme, with these criteria-


I will write down five things that indicate to me that a gun owner or shooter maybe is an honest one.  Then I will tag five other gun owners who are also bloggers and I hope will participate.  


So here goes…


You might be an honest gun owner if:


1. You freely admit there is always more that one way/gun/point of view and are willing to rationally discuss it without resorting to arguing or ignoring/flaming the other party.


2. You tell someone exactly what is wrong with the gun you are trying to sell (and throw in a holster too, since you have a box full).


3. You admit your shortcomings; and own up to mistakes (e.g. lucky shots or really BAD shots) you make.


4. You are willing to support other gun owners/shooters with assistance when you can, but you also are willing to admit you have no clue on certain guns, scopes, etc.


5. You admit you had to take your Ruger MK I or II or III to a gunsmith to get it re-assembled after you got it apart… sigh…


Soooo, who to tag on this one???


Obviously Tam at View from the Porch, since she is a recognized expert on the older guns, and has spent time in the business on BOTH sides of the counter…


Murphy from Lagniappe’s Lair, again a long time collector/shooter 


Jennifer from In Jennifer’s Head, for a ‘newer’ shooter perspective


LL from Virtual Mirage, since he’s got both US and International experiences with gun buyers/sellers


Julie from Jigsaw’s Thoughts, for a truly International flavor


And I have to add AOA from An Ordinary American for his former Military and LEO perspective…


IF y’all accept, you’re supposed to tag five other folks, but I’ll leave that up to you. 


Thanks for reading, and as always, comments are appreciated!

And I screamed like a little girl…


So there we were, hanging out on the ‘balcony’ (read hiding on the top floor stair landing), getting an early smoke and cup of coffee, prior to SSS and heading in to work.


We’re chatting about the ‘stuff’ due today, and trying to get woke up to the point that we were functional.  I’d brought a spare cigarette, and had set it on the outer ledge of the landing.  I was occasionally having to reach out and grab it to keep the breeze from blowing it over the edge.


As we were talking one of the other folks pointed, and out of the corner of my eye, I saw the cigarette start moving…


I reach out yet again to grab it, and I’m holding on to it…  And it MOVED!


I glance over, and realize ‘something’ has a hold of the other end.  It’s a @#^& BAT with about a three foot wingspan!!!


Meanwhile, the old hind brain is gibbering, leggo, Leggo, LEGGO!!!


And the other half of the hind brain is going, Oh you dumbshit… You just got bit by a bat, and now you’re gonna have to get shots and be stuck on the Island, and… and… and…

And the forebrain FINALLY wakes up, and goes Huh…er…whattheohshiiIITTTT! And I screamed like a little girl and let the damn bat have the cigarette, and apparently took ONE large step across the entire landing and ended up standing against the door!!!



It may have been screaming at a higher frequency, but I sure as hell was LOUDER!


At least I didn’t spill a drop of coffee, but I will GUARANTEE you I was wide awake at that point!


And of course the others had to start giving me crap… sigh


“Are you gonna offer it a light?”  Aren’t you gonna tell it smoking is bad for it?”  etc…


Thankfully I didn’t get bit, but I’m sure as hell NOT doing that again…


Sumbitch can go buy its OWN cigarettes…


This ‘kinda’ gives you an idea of how big they are…

A sad, but interesting story…


I will say there is nothing sadder than seeing these once proud ships rotting away at the pier…

Carrier disposal proves a challenge for Navy By Christopher P. Cavas – Staff writer
Posted : Sunday Feb 19, 2012 NAVY TIMES

The flight decks that once thundered and boomed with jet aircraft are silent. The passageways and compartments where thousands of sailors worked, ate and slept are empty. The once meticulously swept and kept decks are worn and torn, some covered in bird droppings. The names of the Navy’s seven decommissioned non-nuclear aircraft carriers conjure up well-earned reputations as Cold War bulwarks. And while at least some are the objects of preservation efforts, chances are slim more than one will survive as a museum ship. The rest are taking up valuable pier space, and the only thing the Navy wants now is to get rid of them.

But that could prove a real challenge, if history is any guide. Breaking up the carriers presents unique industrial and security issues, and estimates of the cost to scrap them ranges from nearly nothing — according to the Navy — to as much as a half-billion dollars per ship.

DECOMMISSIONED CARRIERS
Carriers awaiting disposal
Shown are the carriers’ current locations and the planned disposal option for each.
• Forrestal (AVT 59, ex-CV 59), stricken Sept. 11, 1993. In Philadelphia. Scrap.
• Saratoga (CV 60), stricken Aug. 20, 1994. In Newport, R.I. Scrap (changed from donation hold).
• Ranger (CV 61), stricken March 8, 1994. In Bremerton, Wash. Donation hold.
• Independence (CV 62), stricken March 8, 2004. In Bremerton. Scrap.
• Kitty Hawk (CV 63), decommissioned May 12, 2009, and placed in Mobilization Category B, or “mothballs,”
for preservation and possible future use. In Bremerton. Unstated disposal option.

• Constellation (CV 64), stricken Dec. 2, 2003. In Bremerton. Scrap.
• John F. Kennedy (CV 67), stricken Oct. 16, 2009. In Philadelphia. Donation hold.
Source: Naval Sea Systems Command.
Previous disposals
• Coral Sea (CV 43) was scrapped in the 1990s in Baltimore. The scrap job took more than seven years and was declared finished Sept. 8, 2000. Coral Sea remains the largest warship ever scrapped.
• America (CV 66) was sunk by explosives May 14, 2005, as a fleet training and design study exercise. No photos of the ship sinking have ever been made public, save for one image of the swirl of water from the ship’s descent into the ocean.

The cost will depend on the price of scrap steel; the worst-case scenario for the Navy would be $2 billion to
$3 billion to make all the ships go away. But with scrap steel trading at almost historically high levels, the government’s disposal costs could be far less.

One carrier, Saratoga, already has been offered for scrap. Bids for the work closed in August, and a contract award announcement was initially expected in a month or two. But the Navy has yet to make a decision, although Chris Johnson,  a Naval Sea Systems Command spokesman, said Feb. 9 the award would be made “soon.”

In the meantime, the Navy on Jan. 27 announced that three more ships would soon be offered to bidders. Forrestal, Independence and Constellation are “supercarriers” of the same 1950s/1960s vintage and size as Saratoga, and each contains about 59,000 tons of scrap metal.

Saratoga would be the first supercarrier to be scrapped. Two other ships, Ranger and John F. Kennedy, are on donation hold, a status meaning the Navy will hold off on getting rid of the flattops while preservation groups strive to raise funds and strike  a deal for a location to display the ships.

Only one old carrier, Kitty Hawk, is on standby in case it needs to be used again. The cost to maintain and keep secure each ship is about $100,000 a year, NAVSEA said.

Figuring the cost

The service also is gearing up to dispose of the nuclear-powered carrier Enterprise, a 50-year-old ship similar in most ways to conventional carriers, save for its nuclear reactors. Enterprise is to begin its decommissioning process in 2013 after one more deployment.

Navy and government analysts estimate it will cost $1.1 billion to $1.7 billion to dispose of Enterprise and its eight reactors, spread over 10 years; as reported in May by the Congressional Budget Office, the Navy estimated that the reactors accounted  for about $730 million of a $1.1 billion price tag.

But until a contract is awarded to dispose of Saratoga, the cost to ditch the non-nuclear ships remains unclear. This may be  the best time in years to get rid of the ships.

“The supply of scrap steel now is tight,” Bryan Berry, a veteran reporter with MetalPrices.com, said Feb. 9. “These are the second-highest prices in history.”
Prices peaked during the summer of 2008, he said, when scrap steel traded at more than $800 per gross ton.
“That was ridiculous,” Berry said. “It was a bubble, and fell after only a few months.”
But prices have crept steadily back up to about $400 per ton for many scrap metals.
“Heavy metal scrap — obsolete metal, often from demolition jobs — right now is selling in Chicago for about $417 per gross ton [PGT] delivered to a steel mill,” he noted. “In the 1980s, it was below $100.”
No. 1 busheling steel — clean scrap steel in pieces less than a foot long — is trading for about $482 PGT, he said, with shredded scrap going for about $440 PGT.

The service already has taken advantage of the high scrap prices, if only on a few ships.
“The Navy’s cost of ship dismantling in 2010 and 2011 was just pennies per ship,” NAVSEA’s Johnson said. Although specific prices weren’t provided, he added that the recent contract awards were for less than 10 cents each.

Scrappers ready to go

At least two scrap companies have acknowledged bidding on the Saratoga job. Both are based in Brownsville, Texas, where about half the ship-breaking operations in the U.S. are concentrated.
Scrapping an aircraft carrier is a “big, big job,” said Richard Jaross, president of Esco Marine. “There’s tremendous oversight and costs. It’s not the same as other ships.”

Jaross has been in the ship-scrapping business for decades, and broke up the World War II Essex-class carrier Bon Homme Richard in 1992 at Long Beach, Calif. That ship, he said, contained about 20,000 tons of steel. Jaross noted the industry is vastly different after the turmoil of the 1990s, brought on in large part by the problems with the Coral Sea.

Strict regulations were slapped on the Navy and the industry in the late 1990s after Coral Sea, a 50,000-ton 1940s aircraft carrier, was scrapped in Baltimore. One generation earlier than the supercarriers that began with the Forrestal, Coral Sea remains the largest warship ever scrapped — and it wasn’t easy.
The carrier’s disposal stretched over seven years, bankrupted the original scrapper — who was sent to jail for environmental violations — exposed problems with the ship-scrapping industry, prompted several congressional hearings and led to federal  regulations prohibiting the disposal of U.S. government ships to foreign countries.

A lasting effect of the fiasco — the Coral Sea (seen above at the breakers) was the last Navy ship sold for scrap. Since then, the Navy has had to pay to dispose of all its old vessels.
“It’s a totally different industry now,” Jaross said. “We’ve transformed into a very disciplined business, with strict safety and environmental programs.”
Those changes “didn’t come overnight,” he noted. “It took a lot of rules and time to convince people how to deal with it.”
Bob Berry, head of International Shipbreaking in Brownsville, handled the largest Navy ship-breaking job in recent years, the 1970s-era amphibious assault ship Saipan. Work on that 24,000-ton ship was completed in February 2011. He was more sanguine about the prospect of scrapping Saratoga.
“Is it a bigger job? That’s just not so,” Berry said. “All of the same challenges in the Saratoga are no different than what we dealt with on the Saipan.”
Berry is looking for work for his yard, having just finished scrapping the Ticonderoga-class Aegis cruiser Vincennes in November.
Getting the carrier, he said, would “probably create close to 400 jobs.”

Both Jaross and Berry expressed strong interest in bidding on the next three carriers to be offered, and were perplexed by the delay in awarding a contract for Saratoga.
“They move so slow, it’s very secret, it’s not transparent,” Jaross said of the Navy. “I don’t know what the reason is behind it, I really don’t.”
“I haven’t got a clue,” Berry said.
The Navy Inactive Ships Program Office declined numerous requests for an interview about the ship disposal situation, its plans to dispose of the carrier fleet, or how the Navy changed its mind in recent years about a decision to sink most of the ships as artificial reefs. The office based its refusal on the fact that a contract award had yet to be made.

“This is the first carrier scrapping procurement and as such contains unique terms, conditions and requirements,” Johnson wrote  in a Feb. 2 email. “The procurement process has been longer than expected, but announcement of the apparent successful offer or is expected shortly.”
Ya know, for $26.5M on the average, I ‘think’ I could figure out how to take them apart…

And we need to get them gone, as the pier space IS needed for other things.

PSA- Hornady Recall…

I don’t shoot any of the ‘big’ pistol stuff, but some of you might… Got this from my Team Hornady link…

Hornady recalls 7 lots of 500 S&W 300 grain FTX
Sept 2010 and Oct 2011.

Lot #s are 3101327, 3110256, 3110683, 3110695, 3110945, 3111388 and 3111885.

Kudos to Hornady for being honest and providing this info as soon as they determined there was an issue…

More info at http://www.hornady.com/in-the-news/product-recalls

Word Verify SUCKS!!!

The new word verify sucks so badly,  I’m turning it off… Please play nice…
r,
OldNFO

A little humor…

Jewish modestyA Catholic, a Protestant, a Muslim and a Jew were in a discussion after a dinner.

Catholic: “I have a large fortune….I am going to buy Citibank!”

Protestant: “I am very wealthy and will buy General Motors!”

Muslim: “I am a fabulously rich prince…. I intend to purchase Microsoft!”

They then all wait for the Jew to speak….

The Jew stirs his coffee, places the spoon neatly on the table, takes a sip of his coffee, looks at them and casually says:

“I’m not selling…”

And THIS one is so damn true… sigh…

Of course there was NO ‘real’ coffee available this morning…  NOT a good thing at 0400, and not a damn thing open… Finally got in to work, and the damn Geedunk was closed for cleaning ARRGHHHH!!!

BUT, I found a vending machine… now to find Yen… scrabbled around and found ‘enough’… Coffee in a can is better than nothing, even if it IS made by Coca Cola… sigh

h/t JP and Wing

50 Years ago…

Continuing in the Marine theme…


50 years ago today (at least on the West side of the Dateline it’s today), Major John Glenn, USMC circled the world aboard Friendship 7 as the third launch in the Mercury Program…

Launch:
February 20, 1962. 9:47:39 am EST. Cape Canaveral Launch Complex 14. Powered flight lasted 5 minutes 1 second and was completed normally.
The mercury countdown began on 1/27/62 and was performed in two parts. Precount checks out the primary spacecraft systems, followed by a 17.5 hour hold for pyrotechnic checks, electrical connections and peroxide system servicing. Then the countdown began. The launch countdown proceeded to the T-13 minute mark and then was canceled due to adverse weather conditions. After cancellation, the mission team decided to replace the carbon dioxide absorber unit and the peroxide system had to be drained and flushed to prevent corrosion. Launch vehicle systems were then revalidated and a leak was discovered in the inner bulkhead of the fuel tank that required 4-6 days to repair. The launch was rescheduled to 2/13/62 and then to 2/14/62 to all the bulkhead work to complete. The precount picked up again on 2/13/62, 2/15/62 and 2/16/62 but was canceled each time due to adverse weather. The launch was then rescheduled for 2/20/62. 

During the launch countdown on 2/20/62, all systems were energized and final overall checks were made. the count started at T-390 minutes by installing and connecting the escape-rocket igniter. The service structure was then cleared and the spacecraft was powered to verify no inadvertent pyrotechnic ignition. The personnel then returned to the service structure to prepare for static firing of the reaction control system at T-250 minutes. The spacecraft was then prepared for boarding at T-120 minutes. The hatch was put into place at T-90 minutes. During installation a bolt was broken, and the hatch had to be removed to replace the bolt causing a 40 minute hold. From T-90 to T-55 final mechanical work and spacecraft checks were made and the service was evacuated and moved away from the launch vehicle. At T-45 minutes, a 15 minute hold was required to add fuel to the launch vehicle and at T-22 minutes and additional 25 minutes was required for filling the liquid-oxygen tanks as a result of a minor malfunction in the ground support equipment used to pump liquid oxygen into the launch vehicle. At approximately T-35 minutes, filling of the liquid-oxygen tanks began and final spacecraft and launch vehicle systems checks were
started.

At T-10 minutes the spacecraft went on internal power. At T-6min 30 seconds, a 2 minute hold was required to make a quick check of the network computer at Bermuda. The launch vehicle went on internal power at T-3 minutes. At T-35 seconds the spacecraft umbilical was ejected and at T-0 the main engines started. Liftoff occurred at T+4 seconds at  9:47:39am EST. 

Landing:  

February 20, 1962. 14:43:02 am EST. 800 miles southeast of Bermuda.
Recovered by the destroyer USS Noa. Lookouts on the destroyer sighted the main parachute at an altitude of 5,000 ft from a range of 5nm. The Noa had the spacecraft aboard 21 minutes after landing and astronaut John Glenn remained in the spacecraft during pickup. Original plans had called for egress through the top hatch but Glenn was becoming uncomfortably warm and it was decided to exit by the easier egress path. 

Orbit:

Altitude: 162.2 x 100 statute miles
Inclination: 32.54
Orbits: 3
Period: 88min 29sec
Duration: 0 Days, 4 hours, 55 min, 23 seconds
Distance: 75,679 statute miles
Velocity: 17,544 mph
Max Q: 982 psf
Max G: 7.7

Courtesy of KSC and NASA

50 years ago today we were successful, and landed 
men on the Moon 7 short years later…

We need to bring THAT drive and team effort back 
to the USA!

Those Goddamn Marines…

Another one from the Mil-email chain… And this one goes out to Heath and all those others who are current and former Marines…


Although this was written back in 2003, it holds true even today 🙂

Written by a Marine Reserve, he pretty much nails the whole Marine ethos…


I wonder how many times during Operation Iraqi Freedom that the phrase “Goddamn Marines” was uttered? Even in the best of times, Army and Air Force officers have been heard muttering some epithet about Marines, invoking either heaven or hell. Interestingly enough, we Marines find it all rather reassuring and, at times, amusing.

Most of the time, Marines do not go out of our way to be obnoxious; we are just doing what Marines have done for over 200 years. A good example is the fact that Marines always raise the American flag over mountains or cities they ! have conquered. From Mt. Suribachi to the City of Hue, to Kuwait City to Baghdad, U.S. Marines have raised the Stars and Stripes — in the latter
examples, much to the chagrin of higher headquarters. You don’t get these kinds of problems with the army.

So what is it about the U.S. Marines that they stick U.S. flags on
everything and do more with less, a less that is either old or an army hand-me-down? We call it Esprit de Corps , but it goes deeper than that. We learn and maintain myths of the past, which also means living up to those historical examples. Marine Corps boot camp is the longest of the services; it is where we mold young men and women into the mythical image called a Marine. You can be in the Army, you can join the Air Force, but you become a Marine. All of the other uniformed services have songs; the U.S. Marines
have a hymn. The basic pattern of Marine Corps uniforms comes from the late nineteenth century; our emblem “the Eagle, Globe and Anchor” has remained largely unchanged since 1868. The buttons on our dress blues, whites and greens date back to the founding of our corps. The Marine Corps is the only service that requires its officers to carry a sword, whose pattern dates back to 1805.

I think that the path of being a Marine was established long ago. On the 10th of November 1775, the Marine Corps was first established…in a tavern.


To this day, no matter where in the world, Marines celebrate the founding of our beloved Corps, much to the confusion of the other services.

A few years ago, a congresswoman from ado felt that the Marine Corps was radical and extreme. She contended that the Marine Corps was not politically correct, nor did we seem to be part of the Department of Defense’s transition to a “kinder and gentler” military. She was correct, and the Marine Corps took it as a compliment.

But the proof is in the doing, and during Iraqi Freedom the Marines
demonstrated what Marines can do. I watched with some amusement as a reporter asked a young lance corporal about being in Iraq and under rifle fire. “Love it, sir!” was his response. The reporter was taken aback and asked, “No, really.” The Marine then tried to explain that this is what he was trained to do, he looked forward to doing it and was now happy to be doing it. No doubt in boot camp he was told that he was “a minister of death praying for war.” Contrast that with the poor U.S. Army Apache pilots who
said that if they had to take life, they would do so reluctantly. You are either a warrior or you are not.

Marines are mission oriented. Live or die, the most important thing to a Marine is accomplishing the mission. Whether taking the bridge, river or town, accomplishing the mission is the Holy Grail of being a Marine. How the mission is accomplished is not so important, as it is expected of all Marines to accomplish the mission with the tools available. This is probably why we heard that Marines in one engagement were fighting with knives and
bayonets. This was hardly high tech, but it was effective. These Marines now have bragging rights, for they have proven that they talk-the-talk and walk-the-walk. I doubt there is a single Marine who is not envious.

Marines are practical, as well. I enjoyed hearing two reporters interviewing each other, one embedded with the army, the other with the Marines. The reporter with the army noted that the sandstorm had blown down many of the soldiers’ cots. The other reporter countered that the Marines did not have this problem because they slept on the ground. The Marine learns to live
with what he can carry on his back. He expects to be moved around on the battlefield via his two black Cadillacs (boots). If he is lucky and gets a ride on an amtrack, so much the better — but it is not expected! . At the end of a mission, the priority for cleaning is weapon, then equipment, and finally, body. When the other services talk about “quality of life,” they are referring to housing, clubs and food. Marines are talking about better weapons, equipment and training, winning the battle and coming home alive is considered “quality of life.”

All of this translates into combat power. In comparison to the U.S. Army’s 3rd Infantry Division, the Marines of I Marine Expeditionary Force were lightly equipped. Yet, they battled through the heart of Iraq, fought to the center of Baghdad and then moved off to Tikrit, taking that city as well. The press was so enamored with the Marines that in the final days of the war they even credited the Marines with deeds actually accomplished by the army.

Little wonder we heard “Goddamn Marines!” so often.

So we need to give the Marines some slack when they do something politically incorrect, such as raising the flag or appearing insensitive when killing the enemy. In the field, they look sloppy compared to the army, but are aggressive in the attack and generally unhappy in the defense. Marines take pride in their work, even if that work is war.

We are just Marines and that is what we do.

Lt. Col. David W. Szelowski USMCR (ret.)


And they do a damn good job of it too! 🙂