Who ARE the fact checkers???

Or are they really just basing their fact checks on their ‘opinions’?

It seems the White House sicced them on Townhall for… QUOTING Xiden…

The Democrat-Media complex has been in overdrive trying to protect what remains of President Biden’s credibility and, thanks to collusion between the White House and the fact-checkers at PolitiFact, Townhall found itself in the crosshairs of a White House-triggered fact-check.

Full article, HERE.
Some of the leaks from FB, Twitverse, and others seem to indicate the ‘fact checkers’ are getting direction from higher/outside the company, and/or just using their opinion and biases to determine truth or falsehood. Snopes was outed a few years ago for that, and it seems PolitiFact is doing much the same.
I find it really interesting to do comparisons of stories across the media. By that I mean AP, Reuters, USA Today, Fox, CNN, and a couple of the online media. The ‘variances’ are AMAZING… Always there is the proverbial ‘grain’ of truth in the story, but the agenda of that particular organization comes through loud and clear.
And most if not all of the talking heads on TV are giving opinions, not facts… sigh…

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Who ARE the fact checkers??? — 25 Comments

  1. They are selected for reliability toward the “Party”.

    Reality changes accordingf to the Party’s needs at the moment. That is the reason for the photos of Joe Stalin with & without the traitor walking along side.

    Reality is a crutch for small minds. The Party’s dictates are reality, don’t ‘cha know?

  2. When I read about that just after it happened, including some comments on an article mentioning that there was another phrase left out of the video, I went looking for the whole thing, but, at least at that time, it was rather difficult to locate…or could it be that it was 3 am and my brain wasn’t working well…

    I was trying to express the idea to a slighty left of center friend that MSM news is incomplete and riddled with errors and bias, that one could not wait for Walter Cronkite to explain what is important, that these days we have to go out and find the news and do our own verification of facts (and we have great resources for this). The response was something about “combatting misinformation”. Well, I will try again on our next visit. I think that conversation starts with, “Who gets to decide what is misinformation?” Same friend had cautioned me about “getting information from unreliable sources.” I explained that my approach was to read across the spectrum according to my experiences of reliability of each source and confirm everything that is really important. It takes more time than I like, but I really hate being embarrassed by getting something obviously wrong.

    It is also the case that what “everybody” is discussing is not always the most important thing going on in the world. There are some sources I can barely stand to listen to or read because of style(can’t boriqua gato use some normal capitalization and less unidentified acronyms?), sense of humor, or just plain crudeness, but offer brilliant analysis or point at important things of which I would otherwise be completely unaware.

    Thanks for the discussion space! I have read and enjoyed a couple of your books. Please keep writing!

    • Worse thing for Network news was too many people relying and trusting on Cronkite, who was a corrupt but nice and affable son of an intact female dog of breeding age. Which just made it easier for idiots like Dan Rather to become, well, Dan Rather, which made it easier for the following round of incompetent and corrupt and not nice and not affable sons and daughters of intact diseased female dogs of breeding age who hang around street corners and do tricks for dog kibble…

      Whew.

      Yeah, no. By the 60’s, the networks were firmly in control of the leftists. It’s obvious by the spin put on anything from after the Eisenhower age (and you could see it during the EA by the way they were attacking him, just not as prominently as after he left office.)

      You know, the more I read myself, the more I sound like a member of the Tinfoil Hat Brigade.

    • Everything from the media is untrustworthy, because that’s what they do; they LIE to us.

  3. While the press/media has always had an agenda, they’ve been more blatant in the last few years about taking sides and using the ‘news’ to further that agenda. IOW, they are generally propagandists, not reporters.
    And they don’t try to hide it as much anymore in some areas. Witness their shilling for ‘çlimate change’ or ‘global warming’ or whatever – as in all things, repeating the lie often enough becomes ‘truth’.

    • You are right about that, Tom. Their presentation is getting slicker(multiple presenters offering their “candid” take that is actually scripted), and often seems coordinated across many major outlets. They use the same words(gravitas, anyone?) about the same topics covered in the same priority order. I usually read most news online, as the TV-based stuff is mostly junk.

    • Yeah, and unabashedly propagandizing, which was your point. It is often as though their whole presentaion is just a “Paid Program”. No wonder Mike Lindell bothers them…people are actually buying what he’s selling!

  4. Years ago, I read Google News. Got a weird idea one day to read Google news in different countries. The headlines were different. More accurate. And the stories weren’t as biased as the ones on the US page. That started me digging. If I don’t have primary sources, then it’s suspect.

    • Want to find out what’s really happening here in the USA? Read the front page of the UK’s Daily Mail.

      Which is funny, because they read the front page of the NY Slimes and Washington Post to get the truth about what’s happening over there (especially anything related to Southwest Asian grooming gangs and not-terrorists attacks in the UK.)

  5. Ask yourself this simple question….have we ever had a president who in a few months made so many dumb, decisions, that brought the country into SO MANY MAJOR PROBLEMS, and CRISES?
    You’d think that the stupid Afghanistan decision and the Border Crises would be more than enough to GET RID of the President! . But we haven’t seen the last of Biden’s INEPT decisions that ultimately, and eventually lead to MAJOR crises. Biden is a walking .nightmare! A incompetent, Corrupt, inept, politician. And a failure as the leader of this country!
    And we can NOT expect anything good to happen to American for the remainder of his term, no matter how long, or short it may last. What we CAN look foward to is a sinking economy, a new round of COVID LOCKDOWNS ,and more, and more “Mandates”, and more of our citizens being Fired because of them.
    Our Citizens are losing their jobs because of their decision to refuse the vaccine, while we are seeing TEN’S of Thousands Illegal Invaders entering the Country WITHOUT BEING VACCINATED.
    The economic downturn that we are seeing today is leading to a BIG domino effedt and setting off a Chain Reaction.like the shortage of goods that are on these Cargo Ships, that can’t get docked and unloaded because of the lack of workers, and tTuck Drives to deliver the goods to the stores.
    Afghanistan became a Strong Hold for Islamic terrorism, which threatens our homeland. All because of Biden’s surrender which is now leading to threats to American Interests and our National Security.

    This Failed administration I seems to be wrong on everything!
    Everything BiDumb touches seems to turn into Major problems…:
    The British are already sick of him, and his policies.
    The French pulled their ambassador, and who knows how they will recat to us in the future.
    He pissed off the Canadians by killing the KeystoneXL pipeline
    He sold us out to Afghanistan, and made the Taliban rich by Confiscating our Supplies, Weapons, and Vehicles.
    His Crack-Head Son is enjoyed the Millions of Dollars that the Moscow Mayor’s wife sent the Bidens
    Hunter his having a Ball with the Millions that China gave Hunter for his Ridicules Art.
    The southern border is a catastrophe after Trump had it SOLVED, and Our Vice President don’t even want to get involved in it.
    Runaway Inflation just Gets Worse, and Nancy is making it even Worse with that RIDICULOUS 3.5 billion “infrastructure” bills, that will INCLUDE the $200,000,000 for Fancy Nancy’s Park in San Francisco.
    .
    While Dumb BiDumb can’t even do fake press conferences without answering “Ice Cream” questions.

    All this while Joey’s Department of Justice sends the FBI to arrest Kid’s Parents from School Board Meeting who ask questions at School Board Meetings.
    I could go on and on, but I know that you already know these things.

    But as you know Biden’s biggest problem is that he’s oblivious to reality. He has no logic behind what he does, he does things without any intelligence and he routinely underestimates the American peoples grasp of all the things that go right over his head. He actually thinks the people believe when he tells us that “the border is closed, the border is secure, the Afghanistan withdraw was a big success, mask and vaccine mandates are indispensable, punishing a parents free speech at a school board meeting is a good thing, his Sons Ukraine job and the millions he received from Russia and China had nothing to do with his influence and position, his Son’s idiotic Painting success is legit, inflation and our chain of supply are Trump’s fault, but he has corrected it., our failure in dealing with COVID is Trump’s fault” etc. etc. etc. Logic and common sense tell people this guy is a bullshit artist at best and a compulsive liar at worst. People DON’T trust or believe him and that causes uncertainty which causes tension which will eventually lead to violence.

    The House Democrats are hurting this country, and perhaps fatally.

    America was energy independent, economically stable and on the way to recovering from the Wuhan Covid virus..
    Nine months later we find the opposite happening in America… We see fuel shortages, higher costs for food, fuel, our National Security, and our Health is being tested by the immigration crisis. WE also see our economy collapsing, more, and more shortages with food, energy and material shortages, instability in Taiwan, Ukraine and the Middle East, and we left Americans behind in Afghanistan.
    There is a collapse coming. China will use that as an excuse to invade Taiwan and Russia invading the Ukraine. Meanwhile the US and EU will use the situation to sweep away individual liberty and capitalism to usher in the “New World Order” as being seen in Australia.
    With Mr. Potatohead crowds are hollering “F*** JOE BIDEN” at Football games, The potato head’s handlers are going to try and ram as much of their Pay-Off Bills down our throats as they can.
    What looks like disaster to many Americans is actually the stunning success to the Progressive Marxist, Democrat Commie Left. At this point, I’d bet that even France is wishing they had Donald Trump back.
    So, how much more damage to America is it going to take to make you BiDumb supporters stop supporting him and his party?
    Is there ANY level of damage that would cause you to turn against the Democrats
    and even support that Big, Bad, Orange Man? AFTER Biden took control and REVERSED ALL OF TRUMP’S ACTIONS. This kind of dumbass rhetoric from feckless, clueless Lefties tells me they aren’t even bright enough to understand that while blaming the “others” may make them feel good, it’s going to help nothing!
    Hating me for telling you, or any other Trump supporter won’t put a single bite of food on your table. It won’t keep the roof over your head or defend you from the criminal actions that your own party has weaponized against average Americans. In short, YOU will suffer the same amount as the rest of us and your whining and spewing of hate against the other party, won’t help you a bit. You were warned but you refused the warnings and have surrendered our Liberty and freedoms.
    The Biden administration has decided to go after a group of people based on their political beliefs, appointing themselves to make the national decision of what political agendas, ideologies, and speech is acceptable and which is to be criminalized.
    He and his Leftist Fascist Regime has brought the Parents of School Children at war against the Policies of the Teachers that are teaching our children.
    The extreme vast majority of parents are not violent terrorists, but the newest voice in the party of Hate Virginia’s Terry Mcauliffe who said the leftists agenda out loud when he said “WE are not going to allow parents come in here and make the decision what their children will be taught.”
    Is HE KIDDING? to silence Americans / parents and prevent them from stopping the indoctrination of their children with leftist agendas and material that teaches children to hate each other and hate their country.
    El Presidente Joey BiDumb, sees Republican American’s as the Enemy! Or should I say “HIS ENEMY”
    Thus Terry Mcauliffe was defeated and his political career was sent down the tubes.
    Biden’s administration, and Merrick Garland Biden’s Attorney General are trying to impose the idea that anyone, any parent, who opposes whatever they want to do to their children, who wants to oppose their radical Marxist / Socialist agenda, ideology, and indoctrination are ‘violent criminals and terrorists’.
    Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats did this with HER attempting to claim that a protest against what the Republican Trump Supporters were doing was an “insurrection” and that anyone who participated is a “Violent Terrorist”… Yes a “Violent Terrorist” that belongs to be in JAIL without a trial for almost a hear already, and still counting.

    Are the Parents who oppose to the Biden administration’s Mask and Vaccine Mandate, who opposes Biden’s Radical Leftist from teaching our Kid’s the Critical Race Theory that teaches our kids to Hate each other and their Country supposed to just sit there and allow this??
    These Communists are indoctrinating our children via public Schools…..This Is The Very Same Thing Castro Did in Cuba.

  6. Word around the ‘net is that there was a White House meeting with all of the main media to coordinate a campaign to try to fix the Biden admins plunging stats.

    • Why not? They did the same thing during the Obama disaster.

      And they did the same thing during Trump’s tenure, just not as a way of pushing any positive agenda, and not with approval of the administration, nor actually at the White House. Okay, they met off-site in order to negatively manipulate the potentially-positive message coming out of any government agency during the Trump years.

  7. I have the utmost degree of confidence in the official fact checkers.

    I am confident that I should completely ignore what they have to say, because I’m not interested in spending the time to collect and analyze their words to chase the epicycles of what their lies mean about their actual intentions.

    I already have enough information.

  8. We can expect the fact checking to become far more propaganda like as it becomes completely impossible to hide the true nature of this President and his cabinet from the rank and file voter.

  9. you have to keep in mind that msm is owed by 7 multinational conglomerates, most of which are chinese and the one american makes his megabucks off the chinese. “the news” is no longer a service of the station putting it out, its business. that business was making money selling stuff, but now the business is brainwashing citizens to ignore reality, sponsored by china.

  10. Some years back, Bloviating Zeppelin coined the term, “American Media Maggots”. Fact checkers are part of the rotten mess, IMO.

  11. Frank Clayburn, tell us how you really feel. 🙂 Just kidding! I’m right there with you. You said it better than I could have, and it was refreshing. I live and work around a mass of ill informed voters. The silent majority is alive and well in these parts, but the silence is somewhat frustrating.

  12. Sad to state, but this surprises anyone how? Yeah, from the beginning it was obvious that the ‘fact checkers’ were members of the Ministry of Truth.

  13. “Fact Checkers” are LIARS, owned by the “media”, both/all worthless POSs. (I’m keeping this clean…)

    • I forgot to mention that I despise, detest, and TOTALLY distrust the NYT and the WaPoo (which WaPoops).

  14. Credibility………..you know those tattered remains of plastic bags you may see, caught on a wire fence, blowing in the wind?