How NONE of the middle east countries want to take Palestinian refugees…
Jordanian King Abdullah II is drawing lines and refusing to take in Palestinian civilians from the Gaza Strip as they attempt to flee Hamas.
“I can quite strongly speak on behalf of not only Jordan as a nation but our friends in Egypt — That is a red line. I think that is the plan by certain usual suspects,” Abdullah said in remarks Tuesday. “[There will be] no refugees in Jordan and no refugees in Egypt.”
Full article, HERE.
It’s almost like none of them want to give Iran a ‘nose under the tent’, by allowing Hamas into their country…
I can understand the Jordanian attitude. Remember September 1970, ‘Black September’.
More than that, they simply don’t want those people in their country.
They produce nothing, whine about everything, and simply consume resources and make trouble.
I note this morning, a summit was cancelled, with the usual reasons given. Interesting, that. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/10/17/jordan-and-egypt-cancel-summit-with-joe-biden/
“Make trouble” is probably the most relevant. Jordan suffered a civil war instigated by Palestinian refugees, as did Lebanon. Lebanon used to be a pretty nice destination spot, now it’s an Islamist hell hole. Also a bit funny (not in a ha-ha way) that Syria occupied large swathes of Lebanon for much longer than Israel did but all you hear about is the various Israeli incursions into various places. Of course that’s true of Gaza as well. The Egyptians occupied it for about twenty years until they tried to destroy Israel, at which point Israel took it over until 2005. Read the history of Gaza (not on Wikipedia, btw) and you discover that it was a disaster when the Egyptians ran it, when the Israelis ran it, and when the Palestinians ran it. What do all those periods have in common? Well, you can draw your own conclusions. Meanwhile, 75 years later and people are still living in “refugee camps” instead of building something.
Funny thing about those ‘refugee camps’ is that they aren’t camps. No tents, no tin and wood hovels. Nope.
Multi-level apartment buildings with shopping districts and schools and medical centers.
Most permanent and snazzy refugee camps I’ve ever heard of.
Any photo of tents and hovels is pure ‘Pallywood’ maskrova. All bull poop and no truth.
Of course, all those nice buildings don’t have good sewer or water lines, because Hamas uses the pipes to make missiles from.
The other Arab nations have been carefully following this plan since 1948.
Fair enough as far as it goes, but you left something out
Israel has stated their intent is to force the Gaza people off the land to take it for themselves (and the large offshore nat gas fields just discovered.) To assist by accepting refugees is to aid the Israeli land theft.
To be clear. The Gaza residents aquire their rights not by the legitimacy of some historical legacy, but Because they are human (not “human animals” which is a term stolen from WWII Nazis) and are there and have been there since before the creation of a state.
On a side note: If two million Americans had been confined in similar conditions and treatment what would WE have done? Don’t answer this question if you only have a MSM perspective on what Israel does to the Palestinians. That is the same perspective that got you Vaxxed, and if you are not sorry for trusting them last time, go and get another couple of boosters before making this decision.
While there are loudmouths who have said this, it is demonstrably not actual government policy, much less anything they’ve stated. That makes you a liar, Mr “Trumpeter”.
1.56 million Native Americans live on reservations. Roughly 30% of the total population in this country.
And those Res Indians? They get paid to be Native Americans.
Well, actually, the Tribal Councils get paid the money and it’s supposed to be distributed to the individuals.
Guess who actually decides if one is a member of a tribe? The Tribal Councils. Not the Bureau of Indian Affairs, nope, the Tribal Councils. So BIA pays the TCs the money, and… oh, I see a place for corruption here….
Yes, then the TCs decide who of their members they’ll pay.
And it’s why all the TCs refuse to allow DNA testing and tracking of their members, because it might be found out that there are more or less members and that’s a loss of control to the TCs. (They also resist DNA testing to stop prosecution of sexual assaults.)
Guess why the Reservations are usually turd-world poopholes? Because the TCs control everything. Who gets paid what, who is allowed to work, what work is allowed. And they know that booze and drugs are the easiest way to keep control of their ‘people.’
What part of American society has the highest illiteracy rate?
What part of American society has the highest sexual assault rate?
Highest murder rate?
Highest drug use and alcohol abuse rate?
Is the only (until recently) population that suffers periodic outbreaks of black plague and Hanta virus?
Native Americans on the Reservations.
You know, the ones controlled by the Tribal Councils.
The Tribal Councils, like Hamas with the Gazans, are solely responsible for keeping their people down.
And it’s all about the Benjamins.
That whole tribal stuff on “Yellowstone”? Seriously toned down. Seriously. Toned. Down.
When Israel had control of Gaza, it was a productive land, even with ‘palestinians’ on it. Remember, Israel gave the damned place to the PLO and actually bulldozed Jewish settlements and destroyed farms that Jewish farmers wouldn’t leave.
All of the infrastructure was built by Israel before it was handed over, lock and key, to the Pallies.
What has Israel gotten for giving the Gaza and West Bank to the Pallies? Daily and weekly rocket attacks so bad they had to build an anti-missile system specifically designed to stop garbage rockets from the Pallies. And new ground sensor systems to detect tunnels being built to allow terrorists into Israel.
Spare me the sad violins over the fate of Gaza. The people overwhelmingly voted for Hamas because Hamas promised to kill every Jew and Christian (forgot about that, right?) and make it a paradise from the Sea to the River.
I’ll have to second Mr. Salomon on his comment. The statement that Israel wants to force the Palestinian Arabs off the land is completely false, although even members of Congress have screeched it. Further, it never was true. When Israel, along with Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq were formed after World War II, there was already a sizable Jewish population in the area, and the partition was arragned so that majority Jewish areas became Israel, and majority Arab areas became Palestine. Which, by the way, accounts for the truly wonky borders originally set for Israel. The immediate reaction of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was to order all his followers to flee Israel, and then gather and exterminate the Jews and make an Arab Palestine “from the river to the sea”. Many of them did flee, although they needn’t have as Israel accepts peaccable Arabs to this day.
Exactly. And ever since they have been used as a political potato and a tool to attack Israel. They have been intentionally radicalized and made into extremists – nobody wants any significant number of them around because of this.
All predicted.
The Bible tells us the offspring of Ishmael will be “wild as donkeys”.
But even donkeys are not self-destructive!
The Iranians are more correctly called Persians and there has historically been much discord between those that identify as Arab and those that are Persian. Especially between the House of Saud and the mullahs of Iran. At least the old Shah tried to walk a middle ground ( and yes I am dating myself )
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Mr Sinclair, I believe you have to go back further to the pre and post World War I era to fully understand the origins of the Israel / Palestine border, not just the post World War II era… If you begin to research this time frame be prepared to go down the rabbit hole. A fascinating place to start is the history / biographies of T.E. Lawrence.. A freaking 20-something year old was actually basically setting policy in the Arab world of the time
Everyone has an opinion and mine is, we don’t have a dog in that hunt. Leave it to those who live there to sort it out.
Oh I quite agree, Chris (just above). I just didn’t want to confuse things further…
Most of the so called refugee were citizens of Jordan in the first place. They were expelled for being lazy and worthless beings. The term aroune here is “waste of human skin”. Gaza was a valuable bit of property under the control of Israel. Farms and greenhouses that sold produce to much of Europe. The Arabs pretending to be palistinians destroyed all of it.
There never was a Nation of Palestine.
Palestine was a REGION and a Province various Empires long before Christ. When the British defeated the Ottoman Turks (who had owned the region for 400 years) it was held as mandated territory by the British AND the French. After WW2 it was divided between Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt and Israel.
85% OF PALESTINE WAS GIVEN TO THE ARABS.
Jordanians, Syrians, Lebanese…. All of them are “Palestinians”,AND SO ARE THE JEWS. (Pardon the caps, but I am tired of the lie that the only “Palestinians” are the minority of Arabs living in and around the territory that is now Israel.
Israel kept the West Bank, Gaza Strip and the Golan Heights because they had been attacked in wars of annihilation three times, and were not foolish enough to let declared enemies within artillery range of their major population centres or completely surround Jerusalem.
The surrounding Arab States did a lot to create the problem, by forcing displaced Arabs to remain confined instead of resettling them. They could have done so, just as Israel resettled considerably larger numbers of displaced Jews. That said, ai completely understand why – having created the problem – they do not want to pay.
All- Thanks for the comments. TP, take your BS somewhere else…
While I was stationed at the American Embassy in Jordan, the Wife and I took to driving around the country. Some really interesting old things/places to see there.
We were driving around one day and ended up going into the city of Ma’nn. Scary place/nasty looks from the locals. Lots of bullet hole in most of the buildings. Turned out that was the city where local “palestinians” were allowed to live. Every now and then when they got/get uppity,King Abdullah sends his personal Bedouin Guard down to straighten them out… Turned out to be one of the Not-Recommended-That-Americans-visit-places. Ooopps
Netanyahu has promised that Israel’s actions here will be remembered for generations. In my view, whatever Israel does would be a justified act of reprisal.
The Persians still remember Tamerlane.
I would submit that I do not think that Netanyahu will prove to be a second Tamerlane.
I think with this level of Iranian/Hamas ‘success’, Israel understands some implications wrt Israel’s strategic depth. I dunno what they can do about that, but I haven’t put serious thought into recently, either.
Nobody wants the Palestinians because they are shiftless savages.
0007- True!
Bob- Good point!
LL- Agreed. We’ve ‘seen’ that play out in other countries over there.