"Tactical Carbine Training"- Another take…


Tam opined on ‘tactical training’ HERE, and Alan chimed in HERE and tongue in cheek HERE. I have had a chance this week to sit down with an active duty SEAL Chief and I posed the question(s) to him.

The Chief has multiple combat tours in the sandbox and other places, and has been and is currently serving as an instructor in addition to his other duties. The Chief (20 years as a SEAL) had a primary of weapons and sniper, plus serving as the Platoon chief for multiple deployments.

He basically said up front- Why do ‘you’ need that training as a civilian? It is inherently dangerous, there is no way you can possibly learn everything you need to know in 3-5 days, you have no idea whom or at what level of training the others in the class may have, how good the instructor/assistants are etc., etc., etc.

If you’re that serious, you need to join the military and become a REAL operator (assuming you could qualify)…

He then pointed out that in the military you ‘know’ who your instructor is (e.g. he/she’s been vetted by higher, gone to school to learn the correct way to conduct training, and been observed by senior trainers before ever being allowed ‘out’ on their own), also in the military, people ‘wear’ their resumes on their chests…

There is no doubt about that person’s qualifications to stand up in front of you and teach you, and know that he/she can do so safely.

What is the definition of the ‘tactical training’? Is it LEO, SWAT or military? Three very distinct options, many more if you start throwing in the various sub-genres of “SEAL, Spetznaz, Mossad, Shin Bet, SAS”

Each has a distinct set of parameters, some of which are blatantly in conflict with one another; the military accepts collateral damage as a function of combat, SWAT/LEO does not and minimizes collateral damage (military (SEAL) room clear= surgically kill everybody but the hostage; LEO/SWAT room clear= don’t shoot anybody that is non-threat);

Training ‘ranges’- He said inspection for safety should be paramount. They learned that the hard way a few years ago, when one SEAL was killed through a significant error in a shoot house off base that did not have a safety wall between active shoot rooms and a round went through the wall, killing the SEAL in the other room. He said he will not walk onto a range/shoot house training without his vest on and chicken plates in place (which is not an option for civilians)…

“Basic” requirements to participate- How are those verified? As an aside, the Chief pointed out their training cycle is roughly 6 months long AFTER you get qualified…

Instructor qualifications- CHECK them… If they are not readily presented and references willingly provided, DON’T PATRONIZE THEM or the range.

Muzzling- Gets you boarded, immediately… It may end your SEAL career, especially if you do it with a live weapon. He’s never heard or used the term ‘big boy rules’ and though it was pretty lame. In the military, you are expected to take responsibility for your action(s) including on a live range. Basic gun handling (the four rules) is constantly harped on, drilled multiple times before you ever do it ‘for real’ (e.g. with live ammo), and you do it hundreds of times to ingrain that muscle memory.

He also talked about the SMC mantra, which is shoot, move, communicate (verbal or non-verbal). That is what they live by, and practice all the time. His take was ‘true’ tactical shooting was surgical (e.g. one three round burst per target), and knowing what each team member was doing and where they were going next. He also talked about ‘targeted’ training based on deployment location, e.g. Iraq vs. Afghanistan use different procedures due to different building construction, entry methods, etc.

When we talked about outside training, the ONLY place he would recommend is Mid-South Institute for Self Defense Shooting. He said they have used their facilities for ‘tune up’ just prior to deployment and they were well supported.

His final thought was the better course to take would be a pistol training course, they are actually harder and concentrate more on handling, actually being able to hit a target, malf drills and you are much more likely to actually USE the training than anything else.

I’m not saying this is the last word, but there are things the Chief said that bear thinking about… YMMV, etc…

Edit- Go HERE and check this out… would you want this guy as your instructor???

H/T TOTC

If you’re truly bored at work…

Slip one or two of these into your next report and see if anybody catches it… 🙂

1. To write with a broken pencil is pointless.

2. When fish are in schools they sometimes take debate.

3. A thief who stole a calendar got 12 months.

4. When the smog lifts in Los Angeles, U.C.L.A.

5. The professor discovered that her theory of earthquakes was on shaky ground.

6. The batteries were given out free of charge.

7. A dentist and a manicurist got married. They fought tooth and nail.

8. A will is a dead give-away.

9. If you don’t pay your exorcist you can get repossessed.

10. Show me a piano falling down a mineshaft and I will show you A-Flat miner.

11. You are stuck with your debt if you can’t budge it.

12. A boiled egg is hard to beat.

13. When you’ve seen one shopping center you’ve seen a mall.

14. Police were called to the day center when a three year old was resisting a rest.

15. Did you hear about the fellow whose whole left side was cut off? He’s all right now.

16. If you take your laptop for a run, you could jog your memory.

17. A bicycle can’t stand alone. It’s two tired.

18. When a clock is hungry it goes back four seconds.

19. The guy who fell on the upholstery machine was fully recovered.

20. He had a photographic memory which was never developed.

21. When she saw her first strands of gray, she thought she would dye.

And I really wish this guy wouldn’t sugar coat it, and just tell us how he ‘really’ feels… 🙂

Flyovers…

A bit of a different perspective on flyovers…
Thought y’all might like this, sorry for the quality.

Y’all have a good weekend, and most of all, BE SAFE!

Oopsie…

They say a picture is worth a thousand words… These are worth a chuckle or two also…
It’s been ONE of those weeks (H/T Aepilot Jim)
Doh…

Aw Crap…

Oh S**T….

One note- This does show how tough an AV-8B Harrier is!

Well, 2 notes… The pilot DID ride it out until he was sure it would not go into a hangar or the flight line, so he does get credit for that… The landing? Well, THAT is gonna take a bit of explaining…

Twenty Questions…



How well do YOU know the Constitution? Here are 20 simple questions to ask yourself…


Answers are at the bottom of the post.


1. Has the Constitution always guided our country?

2. What are the three branches of government named in the Constitution?

3. Does the Constitution allow the Supreme Court to make law?

4. Does the Constitution empower the President to make law?

5. Does the Constitution give the Federal government any power in the field of education?

6. Where in the Constitution is there authorization to dispense foreign aid?

7. Did the Constitution give the Federal government power to create a bank?

8. Can the provisions of a treaty supersede the Constitution?

9. Does the Constitution allow a President to take the nation into war?

10. Can you name any of the four crimes mentioned in the Constitution?

11. Should the Bill of Rights be considered part of the original Constitution?

12. According to the Constitution, how can a President and other national officers be removed from office?

13. How many amendments have been added to the Constitution?

14. How is an amendment added to the Constitution?

15. Does the Constitution say anything about illegal immigration?

16. Is the term of a President limited by the Constitution?

17. Which part of the Federal government holds “the power of the purse”?

18. Does the Constitution provide a method for expelling a member of Congress?

19. How many times is the word “democracy” mentioned in the Constitution?

20. Does the Bill of Rights grant the people free speech, freedom of the press, the right to possess a weapon, etc?

It wasn’t as easy as you thought it would be, was it? Here are the answers….

1. No. Originally the nation functioned under the Continental Congress and the Articles of Confederation. Eleven years after the Declaration of Independence the Constitution was written, agreed to and sent to the states for ratification. When ratified by nine states (as the document itself prescribed), the Constitution was declared to be the new governmental system. That occurred on Sept. 13, 1788. The new government was ordered to be convened on March 4, 1789.

2. Legislative, Executive and Judicial.

3. No. The very first sentence in the Constitution states: “All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States….” Any Supreme Court decision is the law of the case that binds only the plaintiff and the defendant. The meaning of the word “all” has not been changed.

4. No. Executive Orders issued by the President that bind the entire nation are illicit because, as noted above, “All legislative powers” are possessed by Congress. An Executive Order that binds only the employees of the Federal government (such as granting a holiday) is proper because the President should be considered to be the holder of power much like that possessed by the CEO of a company. But the entire nation is not in the employ of the President.The President does have a role in lawmaking with his possession of a veto. He can veto a measure approved by Congress (which can be overturned by a two-thirds vote in each house of Congress), or simply allow it to become law by doing nothing within 10 days, “Sundays excepted.”

5. No. The Constitution contains no mention of any power “herein granted” in the field of education.

6. No such authorization appears in the Constitution.

7. No. Congress was granted power to “coin money,” meaning it was to have the right to create a mint where precious metal could be stamped into coinage of fixed size, weight and purity. There is no Constitutional authority for the Federal government to have created the Federal Reserve.

8. Absolutely not. Thomas Jefferson responded to those who consider treaty-making power to be “boundless” by stating, “If it is, then we have no Constitution.”

9. It does not. The sole power to declare the nation at war is possessed by Congress. Congress last used this power at the beginning of World War II, when war was declared on Japan after the attack on Pearl Harbor. (Germany declared war on the U.S. the next day.) A congressional vote to authorize the President to enforce United Nations Security Council resolutions should never be considered a substitute for a formal declaration of war.

10. The four crimes mentioned are: Treason, bribery, piracy and counterfeiting.

11. Many do hold that view because if the promise to add a Bill of Rights had not been made during the ratification process, some states would not have ratified the Constitution.

12. The President and other high officers of the Federal government can be impeached by a majority in the House and tried by the Senate. Impeachment does not constitute removal; it should be considered the equivalent of an indictment that must be followed by a trial. Two-thirds of the Senators “present” must approve removal at the subsequent trial to effect removal.

13. There are 27. The first 10 (the Bill of Rights) can be considered part of the original Constitution. Amendment 18 was repealed by Amendment 21. This means that, in 223 years, only 15 other amendments have been added. The process was deliberately made difficult to keep anything dangerous or silly from being added to the Constitution in the heat of passion.

14. Congress can propose an amendment when two-thirds of both Houses of Congress vote to do so. Any proposed amendment must then by ratified by the legislature or a convention in three-quarters of the States. Amendments can also be proposed by a Federal Constitutional convention called by two-thirds of the States. Any amendment arising from a Constitutional convention must also be ratified by the legislature or a convention in three-quarters of the states.

15. Not directly. But Article IV, Section 4 assigns to the Federal government the duty “to protect each of them [the States] from invasion.” It does not specify that the invasion must be military. When 12 million people enter our nation illegally, it is an invasion that should be repelled by the Federal government.

16. Yes. In 1951, Amendment 22 was added to the Constitution to limit any President to two terms. The only President who served longer than two terms was Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who held office during a fourth four-year term. He died in April 1945 shortly after beginning his 13th year in office.

17. The House of Representatives. Article I, Section 7 states: “All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives….” If a majority in the House (218 of its 435 members) refuses to originate a bill to raise revenue for something, then no funds can be spent on that activity.

18. Two-thirds of each House has the authority to expel any of its members for cause even though the member has been elected by voters.

19. The word “democracy” does not appear in the Constitution. Our nation is a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy. The Founders feared Democracy (unrestricted rule by majority) and favored a Republic (rule of law where the law limits the government). James Madison wrote: “…. Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.”

20. No. The Declaration of Independence, which provides the philosophical base of our nation, states very clearly that our rights are granted to us by our Creator. The various rights noted in the Bill of Rights were not granted by government. The purpose of the Bill of Rights is to prevent the Federal government from suspending any of those God-given rights, including the right to possess a weapon.






Ethics???

What has happened to the ethics investigations of Maxine Waters and Charlie Rangel??? They have dropped out of the MSM completely…


Oh wait a minute… I found THIS and THIS, in other words NOTHING is going to be done until after the election, and probably not until NEXT YEAR!


How in hell do they get away with it? If these had been Republicans, the trials would be going on in mid-October, the MSM would be having an article a day, etc…


I don’t know about anybody else, but I’m about fed up with the whole mess! At this point I’m convinced ALL of the incumbents will do anything to get re-elected, even when they lose the primary… (see Charlie Crist, among others).


As more and more truths come out about the Health Care ‘mandate’, and people see prices go up anywhere for 9% to 24% (and maybe higher), no more child only plans, and people who can’t afford to pay for health care when they are involuntarily retired prior to being able to get social security and Medicare; the veracity of anything coming out of Congress becomes less and less believable.


I, for one, do not intend to vote for ANY incumbent this year, and I WILL BE VOTING!


I don’t care who you vote for, but PLEASE go out and vote… IT DOES COUNT!


REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!

A Rifleman’s War…

Earl has this up at his blog, but I’m reposting here because it’s important people understand what is going on in the Sand Pit…


Afghanistan has become a rifleman’s war.

Because we are fighting a counterinsurgency campaign against a tribal warrior society we have and increasingly continued to limit the use of supporting arms. Machineguns are even proscribed in villages and cities for fear of inflicting innocent civilian casualties.

The result is that we must rely more and more on our riflemen to engage and defeat the enemy. We know that 52% of the fights in Afghanistan begin at 500 meters and go out from there.

Recent publications by Dr. Lester Grau (Foreign Military Studies Office) indicate that a majority of the fights in Helmand Province are between 500 and 900 meters.

The problem is that we don’t teach soldiers to engage with their rifles at those ranges anymore.


Those of you who were at Blogarado, remember the little target I put out there about 550X? THAT is the engagement range! Go to Small Wars Journal and download the entire article, it’s worth the read!

It Ain’t Your Father’s Winchester…


Well, the gentleman took my offer and I went down and picked up another rifle today…


Prairie dogs, wood chucks and other varmints beware 🙂

I’m now the proud owner of one VERY slightly used Winchester Model 70 Coyote Light in 22-250. It has literally had 20 rounds total through it, and really isn’t even broken in. He even threw in the rest of a case of BH Gold 50gr V-max too 🙂

It’s got a composite stock, 24 inch fluted medium heavy barrel, and a Loopy 4.5×14 scope on it. Definitely NOT your father’s Winchester, this one has a CNC milled pre-64 action and new trigger and I will tell you it feels like it’s had a thousand rounds through it! It is smooth as butter, the trigger is as good as the ones on my sniper rifles and this is a brand new gun! Winchester (and FN in South Carolina who builds the guns) got this one right!

But I do have a question…

Why oh why would someone order a varmint gun like this and get a DUPLEX RETICLE???

So the scope is off, shipping it back to Loopy for a varmint reticle install and they are going to throw in a CDS knob for the BH ammo!

Range report to follow when I get it re-assembled… AD, now I won’t have to borrow your .22 next time, and I might even let you shoot this one… 🙂

Just to set the record straight…

I got into it with one of the Left Wing Loonies at work today… So I did a bit of open literature research…

The day the democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009 it was actually January 3rd 2007 the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, the start of the 110th Congress. The Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.

For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is “Bush’s Fault”, think about this:

January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:

At the time:

The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77

The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%

The Unemployment rate was 4.6%

George Bush’s Economic policies set a record of 52 straight months of JOB CREATION!

Remember the day…

January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.

The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy?

BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

THANK YOU DEMOCRATS for taking us from 12,600 DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6% Unemployment… to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES! (BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 different time to stop Fannie & Freddie – starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy).

And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? (B. Frank and C. Dodd are thought to have received the most).

OBAMA

And who had fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?

OBAMA and the Democratic Congress

So when some one tries to blame Bush…

REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007…. THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!” Bush may have been in the car but the Democrats were in charge of the gas pedal and steering wheel they were driving.

When I went back and confronted her with these facts, she said I MADE THEM UP!!!

I mean I’ve seen some people that were hard over on their ‘beliefs’; but when presented with readily available FACTS they say they’re false? WTF???

And then she threw in the gratuitous comment that I must be racist, since I didn’t back Obama… sigh… At that point I just walked off, since there was NO reasoning with the woman…

And these people are going to get a rude awakening in November and then what are they going to say???