Left to right are G17, Kahr, and BHP. The flyers are marked, and the best groups were with the BHP, followed by the Glock, but for what ever reason, the Kahr really didn’t ‘like’ the Remington ammo (from the accuracy perspective).
From here, I moved over and did some Mozambique’s, using all three guns and shooting five round groups of Remington Target, followed by five round groups of Speer Gold Dot carry ammo. I had no failures to eject, feed or fire, and it did feel ‘lighter’ in the recoil department than the Gold Dot, which is 1100fps; so I’d estimate the Remington is around 1000-1050fps, even though Remington claims 1135fps.
I was able to keep all the rounds in the A and head areas of a standard IDPA target at 10 yards with the remainder of the ammo; so I’d give it a ‘qualified’ recommendation for plinking, fun shooting, etc. Sadly, I can’t recommend it for true “target” practice, when you’re trying to sight in/shoot VERY accurately.
Thanks to Lucky Gunner for providing the ammo, and sorry it took me so long to actually get to the range and test it.
And if anybody actually gets a Chrony on this stuff, can you let me know what you see???
A magazine recently ran a ‘Dilbert Quotes’ contest. They were looking for people to submit quotes from their real-life Dilbert-type managers. These were voted the top ten quotes in corporate America:
‘As of tomorrow, employees will only be able to access the building using individual security cards. Pictures will be taken next Wednesday, and employees will receive their cards in two weeks.’
(This was the winning quote from Fred Dales, Microsoft Corp in Redmond WA)
‘What I need is an exact list of specific unknown problems we might encounter.’ (Lykes Lines Shipping)
‘E-mail is not to be used to pass on information or data. It should be used only for company business.’ (Accounting manager, Electric Boat Company)
‘This project is so important we can’t let things that are more important interfere with it.’ (Advertising/ Marketing manager, United Parcel Service)
‘Doing it right is no excuse for not meeting the schedule.’ (Plant Manager, Delco Corporation)
‘No one will believe you solved this problem in one day ! We’ve been working on it for months. Now go act busy for a few weeks and I’ll let you know when it’s time to tell them.’ (R&D supervisor, Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing/ 3M Corp)
Quote from the Boss: ‘Teamwork is a lot of people doing what I say.’ (Marketing executive, Citrix Corporation)
My sister passed away and her funeral was scheduled for Monday. When I told my Boss, he said she died on purpose so that I would have to miss work on the busiest day of the year. He then asked if we could change her burial to Friday. He said,’That would be better for me.’ (Shipping executive, FTD Florists)
‘We know that communication is a problem, but the company is not going to discuss it with the employees.’ (Switching supervisor, AT&T Long Lines Division)
If you’ve got any good ones that have happened to you, comments are welcome…
If you don’t I hope you at least got a chuckle out of these; and hopefully don’t work for any of these folks…
Granted I let it go a bit long between fill ups, but still…
And in other news…
Courtesy of the Baltimore Sun, read the entire story HERE. Interestingly enough, I haven’t seen this in any other MSM outlets… Can’t help but wonder if it’s because they are black and muslim…
That seems to be the don’t touch with a 10 foot pole combination for the MSM. Much like the “Marine Reservist” that wanted to attack the Pentagon, they don’t mention that he is Ethiopian, naturalized, and a muslim…
3.. I Work Hard Because Millions On Welfare Depend on Me!
4.. Some people are alive only because it’s illegal to kill them.
5.. I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.
6.. Don’t take life too seriously; No one gets out alive.
7.. You’re just jealous because the voices only talk to me.
8.. Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.
9.. Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.
10.. I’m not a complete idiot — Some parts are missing.
11.. Out of my mind
. Back in five minutes.12. NyQuil, the stuffy, sneezy, why-the-heck-is-the-room-spinning medicine.
13.. God must love stupid people; He made so many.
14.. The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
15.. Consciousness: That annoying time between naps.
16.. Ever stop to think, and forget to start again?
17.. Being “over the hill” is much better than being under it!
18.. Wrinkled Was Not One of the Things I Wanted to Be When I Grew up.
19.. Procrastinate Now!
20.. I Have a Degree in Liberal Arts; Do You Want Fries With That?
21.. A hangover is the wrath of grapes.
22.. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a cash advance.
23.. Stupidity is not a handicap. Park elsewhere!
24..They call it PMS because MadCow Disease was already taken.
25..He who dies with the most toys is nonetheless dead.
26..A picture is worth a thousand words, but it uses up three thousand times the memory.
27..Ham and eggs. A day’s work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig.
28.. The trouble with life is there’s no background music.
29.. The original point and click interface was a Smith and Wesson.
30.. I smile! because I don’t know what the hell is going on.
Oh yeah, and Be thankful we’re not getting all the government we’re paying for.
“Attorney General Eric Holder will meet Tuesday with Andrew Traver, head of the ATF field office in Chicago, about possibly becoming the agency’s acting director, according to senior federal law enforcement sources, who are familiar with the details of the controversy.”
The scary part is Traver was the Administration’s pick to head the ATF, HERE; the NRA came out (along with many others) HERE, and it fact the recess appointment was NOT made…
But now??? Looks like he’s going to be put in as the ‘acting’ director, regardless of what people say.
Another issue is the attitude of the DOJ people who are still refusing to provide any info, documents, testimony and the fact that both the House and Senate have bills pending that will exempt even MORE people from Confirmation Hearings (e.g. any kind of oversight by Congress)
Here is the GOA alert on it.
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When you start adding all this up (or at least when I do), it looks like this administration is determined to make all the end runs it can on Congress and everybody else (including us)…
In other news, the Georgia Immigration bill is coming under attack from multiple avenues, much like the Arizona bill, but there isn’t much (if any) pressure on Mississippi which passed a similar bill. More and more states are looking at jumping on that bandwagon, and as MS/GA proves, it’s not just the border states.
Spent the weekend with Snigs and family, basically doing NOTHING 🙂
Got an interesting tour of a nearby town, including three generations of plantation homes, starting with a one room cabin built in the 1700’s, a four room house built in the late 1700’s, and a brick plantation house built in 1868-69 (luckily the family had just shipped a ship full of cotton to England and the agent there held the money until after the Civil War). They were all furnished with period furniture, some of which actually belonged to the original family! Originally 3100 acres of cotton, that ended with the boll weevil; sadly the town has lost most of the light industry it had, and on a visit to the local gun store the owner told me he will be surprised if he’s still in business in three years…
We are losing small town America one town at a time due to lack of jobs, and with it a (my opinion) better way of life. Busy all the time is not necessarily better…
Anyhoo… She had BBQ and an old friend and her hubby over for dinner and the friend’s hubby brought a new pistol, a Ruger SP-101 in .327 Magnum!
Having never seen one in the ‘flesh’ so to speak, I was interested in how it shot. Of course Snigs drug her Blackhawk out, along with a little Ruger MkIII (heh… just realized it was a ALL Ruger day)!
We were shooting in the back yard at about 10 yards, and I know I’m not gonna piss ANY of those folks off… That target was deader than a doornail 🙂
Oh yeah, the SP-101… Interesting little carry pistol, and the .327 does pack a punch! It’s a bit short coupled for me (Ruger knuckle AGAIN); but it’s an accurate little pistol especially on SA. Like all Rugers, DA the trigger is at least 12 lbs though. It works fine for folks with smaller hands though.
We got chased inside by the rain, so we didn’t put a lot of rounds down range, but it was fun anyway.
Since we were inside, it was time to EAT! Good pork BBQ, hash (a Southern tradition), and slaw made for a tasty treat; followed up by lemon meringue pie and all washed down with sweet tea. Guess I can say I got my Southern food fix for a while 🙂
We called it early (before midnight) as I had to get up and drive back to ATL this morning, way too @#&* early…
Which reminds me, they just need to rename I-285 the Atlanta Speedway! I was doing 70 in a 55, getting passed like I was standing still! At one point I pulled out and sped up to see how fast the limo that passed me was going, and he was doing 90!!! And he wasn’t the only one…
Finally got back to the airport, and was checking in when I saw something that just made me proud- A soldier was going downrange on orders, so he was pretty loaded down with his various bags and weapons case. The porters came over and grabbed his bags (obviously he carried his weapons case), and trooped into the airport. Since he was flying on United, I watched as they carried all his stuff to the counter, and when he tried to pay them, not a single one took a penny, all they wanted was a handshake and I heard EVERY one of them tell him thanks and wished him well. Say what you will, but the average American IS proud of our folks in uniform and do support them in ways large and small…
Snigs, et al, thanks for a great weekend of doing nothing! 🙂
Gotta love it when they do something right… 🙂
Fairfax, Va. – A proposal by Congressmen John Campbell (R-CA) and Peter DeFazio (D-OR) to prohibit necessary and legal practices used to effectively manage wildlife and predator species was overwhelmingly defeated today in the House of Representatives. The amendment to H.R. 2112, the Agriculture appropriations bill, was strongly opposed by the NRA and other pro-hunting organizations. It was pushed by the Humane Society of the United States and other radical anti-hunting groups.
“Wildlife and wildlife predators cause hundreds of millions of dollars in damage annually to natural resources, public infrastructures, private property and agriculture,” said Chris W. Cox, executive director for NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action. “We will continue to oppose efforts like the Campbell-DeFazio Amendment that seek to diminish essential wildlife and predator management programs that protect our hunting heritage.”
The amendment would have drastically reduced funding to the Wildlife Service Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service Program (WS), which is authorized by Congress to manage a program to decrease human-wildlife conflicts throughout the United States, including damage from predator animals.
Coyotes and other predators have decimated a great deal of the mule deer, moose and elk populations throughout the United States. As it stands, lethal predator control remains the best tool we have for keeping large predators in balance with existing habitat and the prey they require.
“This was yet another defeat for the anti-hunting agenda being pushed by the Humane Society of the United States”, concluded Cox. “The NRA will continue to fight to protect America’s hunting heritage from those who seek to eliminate it.”
Anybody else see this???
Today, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) and several federal, state and local agencies will participate in a scheduled exercise designed to enhance security in the Ohio-West Virginia area. TSA has partnered with local law enforcement to conduct thousands of similar operations from coast to coast. This is a scheduled operation, not related to a specific threat.
Bold italics are mine… thousands of similar operations??? WTF!
This is from the Marietta Times in Ohio, and another look from INFOWARS.
And apparently both USCG and National Guard units are participating too!
And yet another look from the Charleston Gazette in WV.
TSA has nothing on their website, and THIS is their description of the VIPR teams.
So what is the real goal? Protection of infrastructure, or is this the “civilian national security force” that Obama was talking about back during the campaign? Joe Farah at WND picked up on this a long time ago, but it’s never really gone anywhere, nor have any ‘good’ answers come out of the administration (no surprise there)…
Or is this a not so veiled threat to Texas and any other states that are thinking about fighting back??? If you don’t play by ‘OUR’ rules we’ll shut you down, tie up your airports, interstates, and anything else we want to…
On a more personal level, I can’t help but wonder how knowledgeable these folks are on CCW laws in all three states, and what, if any, confrontations have occurred… Since we know out and out groping is occurring at airports, and that is WITH cameras there; what was/is happening on the side of the road with no cameras around and only you and the TSA VIPR team present???
I honestly don’t have a good answer for any of the questions I’ve asked, but the hairs on the back of my neck are standing up…
Maybe I’m over-reacting, but I’d be interested to know if anyone had any confrontations with these folks today, and how they were handled.
Statement from Ray (Chief Pilot)
“First, let me start off by sincerely thanking everyone for the outpouring of support that we are receiving. I am sorry that I have not yet had the opportunity to return the many phone calls, text or e-mails that I am receiving offering to help. Again, thank you for all of the kind words that we are receiving and for incredible offers to help emotionally, financially and/or with the recovery process. I hope this statement will help fill in a few details that everyone is wondering about that led to the loss of our “Liberty Belle”.
Yesterday morning, both our P-40 and B-17 were scheduled to fly from Aurora, Illinois to Indianapolis, Indiana. We were in Aurora for the weekend as a part of our scheduled tour. Over the course of the previous week, we completed a scheduled 25-hour inspection on the B-17 which was completed by Saturday. On Saturday, the weather stayed below the required ceiling to give any passenger flights, however the B-17 flew in the morning on a routine training proficiency flight, performing several patterns. Following the flight, other maintenance issues arose that required us to cancel our Sunday flying schedule for repairs. The maintenance performed has not been, in any way, associated to the chain of events that led to Monday’s fateful flight, but is being considered in the preliminary investigation. However, due to the media’s sensational (mis)reporting, there is a large amount of misinformation that continues to lead the news.
Here is what we do know… Flying in the left seat of the B-17 was Capt. John Hess. John has been flying our Liberty Belle since 2005 and one of our most experienced B-17 pilots. He is an active Delta Air Lines Captain with over 14,000 hours of flying experience and flys a variety of vintage WWII aircraft. In the right seat was Bud Sittic. While Bud is new to the Liberty Foundation this year, he is also incredibly experienced with over 14,000 hours of flying time in vintage and hi-performance aircraft. He is a retired Captain with Delta Air Lines.
The news misidentified the P-40 as flying chase during the accident. I was flying our P-40, however I had departed 20 minutes prior to the B-17’s takeoff on the short flight to Indianapolis to setup for the B-17’s arrival. The aircraft flying chase was a T-6 Texan flown by owner Cullen Underwood. Cullen is one of our rated B-17 Captains and an experienced aviator tagging along as a support ship.
The takeoff of both aircraft was uneventful and proceeded on-course southeast. Prior to exiting Aurora’s airport traffic area, the B-17 crew and passengers began investigating an acrid smell and started a turn back to the airport. Almost immediately thereafter, Cullen spotted flames coming from the left wing and reported over the radio that they were on fire.
As all pilots know, there are few emergency situations that are more critical than having an in-flight fire. While it is extremely rare, it can (and sometimes does) indiscriminately affect aircraft of any age or type. In-flight fires have led to the loss of not only aircraft, but often can result in catastrophic loss of life. It requires an immediate action on the flight crew, as the integrity of aircraft structure, systems and critical components are in question.
Directly below the B-17 was a farmer’s field and the decision was made to land immediately. Approximately 1 minute and 40 seconds from the radio report of the fire, the B-17 was down safely on the field. Within that 1:40 time frame, the crew shutdown and feathered the number 2 engine, activated the engine’s fire suppression system, lowered the landing gear and performed an on-speed landing. Bringing the B-17 to a quick stop, the crew and passengers quickly and safely exited the aircraft. Overhead in the T-6, Cullen professionally coordinated and directed the firefighting equipment which was dispatched by Aurora Tower to the landing location.
Unlike the sensational photos that you have all seen of the completely burned B-17 on the news, you will see from photos taken by our crew that our Liberty Belle was undamaged by the forced landing and at the time of landing, the wing fire damage was relatively small. The crew actually unloaded bags, then had the horrible task of watching the aircraft slowly burn while waiting for the fire trucks to arrive. There were high hopes that the fire would be extinguished quickly and the damage would be repairable. Those hopes were diminished as the fire trucks deemed the field too soft to cross due to the area’s recent rainfall. So while standing by our burning B-17 and watching the fire trucks parked at the field’s edge, they sadly watched the wing fire spread to the aircraft’s fuel cells and of course, you all have seen the end result. There is no doubt that had the fire equipment been able to reach our aircraft, the fire would have been quickly extinguished and our Liberty Belle would have been repaired to continue her worthwhile mission.
Let me go on the record by thanking the flight crew for their professionalism. Their actions were nothing short of heroic and their quick thinking, actions and experience led to a “successful” outcome to this serious in-flight emergency. John and Bud (and Cullen) did a remarkable job under extreme circumstances and performed spectacularly. While the leading news stories have repeatedly reported the “crash” of our B-17, fact is they made a successful forced landing and the aircraft was ultimately consumed by fire. Airplanes are replaceable but people are not and while the aircraft’s loss is tragic, it was a successful result.
This leads me into discussing the exceptional safety record of the Boeing B-17 and to hopefully squash the naysayers who preach we should not be flying these types of aircraft. Since we first flew the “Liberty Belle” in December of 2004, we have flown over 20,000 passengers throughout the country and if you count our historic trip to Europe in 2008, worldwide. Of the other touring B-17s, some of which that have been touring for over 20 years, they have safely flown hundreds of thousands of people. The aircraft’s safety record is spectacular and I am certain the overall cause of our issue, which is under investigation, will not tarnish that safety record. In fact, as many of you know, other B-17 have suffered significant damage (although not as bad as ours!), only to be re-built to fly again. From a passenger carrying standpoint, I can think of few aircraft that offer the same level of safety as the 4-engine “Flying Fortress”. As mentioned earlier, in-flight fires are extremely rare and certainly could affect any powered aircraft under certain circumstances. I would put my children today in any of the other touring B-17s to go fly. I suggest to anyone that was thinking of doing so when a B-17 visits your area to do so without giving our loss any thought.
There is wild speculation going on as to the cause of our fire and the affect to other operators. Please let the investigation run its course and report the findings. The NTSB and FAA were quickly on the scene and we are working closely with them to aid in the investigation. As soon as we receive some additional information, we will release it via the website http://www.libertyfoundation.org/.
The ultimate question remains, where does the Liberty Foundation go from here? After the investigation and recovery, we will determine our options. We are still committed to the restoration and flying of World War II aircraft. Again, we appreciate the support and people offering to help get us back flying.
Please check back for updates. I will close by thanking everyone that made our tour so successful. From the first day of the B-17’s restoration, thank you for all of you who labored to get her flying over the initial restoration years and to everyone that has worked on her out on tour since. Thank you to the crewmembers, tour coordinators and volunteers who gave up weekends and countless hours to support her on the road. And finally, thank you to the passengers, donors and media patrons that flew aboard and everyone who supported our cause. Hopefully, this will not be the end of the story, but a new beginning.”
Regards,
Ray Fowler
The Liberty Foundation, Chief Pilot
A good update, and the ‘rest’ of the story as they say… A sad loss, but I don’t see them giving up!