Depending on how far back you want to go, there have been a number of authors, fanzine proprietors, and conservatives ‘dis-invited’ from a number of different conventions, speaking engagements, etc.
In the last year or so, it was Orson Scott Card. A month or so ago, it was John Ringo. Yesterday it was Larry Correia. Who will it be next month? Sarah Hoyt? Michael Z. Williamson? S. M. Sterling? You? Me? Well, not me, I’m so far down the author food chain I’ll be dead before they ever get that far down…
Defamation of character is an offense for which a complainant may be eligible to bring another party to civil court. There are two types of defamation: spoken defamation, or slander, and written defamation, or libel.
The balance that makes defamation law tricky is that the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution gives people the right of free speech. On the other hand, people should not be able to ruin the lives of others by disseminating lies to force a business to shut down or compel the breakdown of a family.
Laws regarding defamation vary from state to state, but generally speaking, four criteria must be met for a slander or libel suit to stand a chance of success. The defamation, whether written or spoken, must be:
Demonstrably and objectively false
Seen or heard by a public third party
Quantifiably injurious
Unprivileged by law
Defamation Must Be Objectively False
It is not against the law to say mean things about somebody if they are either true or if they are entirely subjective. For instance, if a restaurant critic says that the food “was the worst I’ve had in a long time,” the statement, while mean, is vague and subjective enough to avoid a lawsuit. Similarly, environmental activists who make the public aware of corporate practices that harm the earth can’t be sued for defamation as long as they report on the facts.
Defamation Must Be Published
In order to prove injury, you have to prove that other people saw it, heard it, read it and had their minds changed because of the slanderous or libelous statements. Courts generally consider libel to be more serious than slander because writing lasts longer, though major television broadcasts often carry the same weight as major print or web publications because more people viewed them.
Defamation Must Cause Financial Injury
In order to determine the damages from a slander or libel suit, there must be quantifiable damages. Defamation of character damages a person’s or company’s reputation, and it must be proven that the damage to reputation correlated with a loss of money, property, relationship or was subject to harassment that led to any of the above losses.
Defamation Must Not Be Protected Speech
Examples of speech that is privileged and protected specifically by the U.S. Constitution from defamation laws include witness testimony in court and lawmaker statements in legislative chambers or official materials.
As long as the defamatory statements are published, false, injurious and unprivileged, you may have a case to file a defamation lawsuit. Of course, it is always advised to consult with a lawyer before taking any steps forward in your legal action.
It’s becoming readily apparent that it is time to take the gloves off and go after the SJW POS that are pulling this crap. The ‘story’ that got Ringo disinvited was patently false, slanderous, and it did cost him money in lost sales at the minimum. The total lost of sales is TBD, but meets the above qualifications. It was refuted by a knowledgeable source, and yet nothing was done.
The same happened to Correia, and it’s the same BS, bringing up unfounded issues/lies from Sad Puppies, etc. that were freely shared on Vile 770 and other SJW sites. Again no verification, and had been proven false more than once over the last three years. Since Larry was going to promote a new game, and books, again financial loss, TBD but also meets the qualifications.
It’s time to bring in the lawyers, go after these people and make them PAY for their attempts at banning and costing any conservatives or other authors that disagree with them their livelihood. I can’t help but wonder if there is also liability for breach of contract in both these cases??? Especially since Origins apparently violated their own rules.
HERE is Larry’s response, and I couldn’t locate John’s on facebook, but I know it’s out there. HERE is a post that Michael Z. Williamson put up on the 2nd of May. Oddly prophetic that…
Stephen Michael Sterling put this up as part of a post yesterday obliquely commenting on the situation-
Humans are tribal; this is inherent, there’s nothing you can do about it.
We’re all going to pick sides, whoop up our side, see its faults as forgivable and the other team’s as evidence of their inherent rottenness, engage in confirmation bias and motivated reasoning and bask in the warm comforting rage of righteousness.
Nobody is objective, and the smarter and better-informed you are the less objective you will be — you’ll just have more cunning rationalizations.
It’s time to take the gloves off and bring them into the court of law, which WILL get their attention, unlike anything else we can do at this point. Our livelihoods could depend on our taking action.
I’m not a lawyer, don’t play one on TV, but I know how to read…
Granted I’m an old fart, but the movies and the movie stars were conservatives, proud of America, and many of them had fought and bled for America both in WWII and Korea…
Sterling Hayden, US Marines and OSS. Smuggled guns into Yugoslavia and parachuted into Croatia .
James Stewart, US Army Air Corps. Bomber pilot who rose to the rank of General.
Ernest Borgnine, US Navy. Gunners Mate 1c, destroyer USS Lamberton.
Ed McMahon, US Marines. Fighter Pilot. (Flew OE-1 Bird Dogs overKorea as well.)
Telly Savalas, US Army.
Walter Matthau, US Army Air Corps., B-24 Radioman/Gunner and cryptographer.
Steve Forrest, US Army. Wounded,Battle of the Bulge.
Jonathan Winters, USMC. Battleship USS Wisconsin and Carrier USS Bon Homme Richard. Anti-aircraft gunner,Battle of Okinawa .
Paul Newman, US Navy Rear seat gunner/radioman, torpedo bombers of USS Bunker Hill .
Kirk Douglas, US Navy. Sub-chaser in the Pacific. Wounded in action and medically discharged.
Robert Mitchum, US Army.
Dale Robertson, US Army. Tank Commander in North Africa under Patton. Wounded twice Battlefield Commission.
Henry Fonda, US Navy. Destroyer USS Satterlee.
John Carroll, US Army Air Corps. Pilot in North Africa. Broke his back in a crash.
Lee Marvin US Marines. Sniper. Wounded in action on Saipan. Buried in Arlington National Cemetery , Sec. 7A next to Greg Boyington and Joe Louis.
Art Carney, US Army. Wounded on Normandy beach, D-Day. Limped for the rest of his life.
Wayne Morris, US Navy fighter pilot, USS Essex. Downed seven Japanese fighters.
Rod Steiger, US Navy. Was aboard one of the ships that launched the Doolittle Raid.
Tony Curtis, US Navy. Sub tender USS Proteus. In Tokyo Bay for the surrender of Japan .
Larry Storch. US Navy. Sub tender USS Proteus with Tony Curtis.
Forrest Tucker, US Army. Enlisted as a private, rose to Lieutenant.
Robert Montgomery, US Navy.
George Kennedy, US Army. Enlisted after Pearl Harbor , stayed in sixteen years.
Mickey Rooney, US Army under Patton. Bronze Star.
Denver Pyle, US Navy. Wounded in the Battle of Guadalcanal. Medically discharged.
Burgess Meredith, US Army Air Corps.
DeForest Kelley, US Army Air Corps.
Robert Stack, US Navy. Gunnery Officer.
Neville Brand, US Army, Europe. Was awarded the Silver Star and Purple Heart.
Tyrone Power, US Marines. Transport pilot in the Pacific Theater.
Charlton Heston, US Army Air Corps. Radio operator and aerial gunner on a B-25, Aleutians .
Danny Aiello, US Army. Lied about his age to enlist at 16. Served three years.
James Arness, US Army. As an infantryman, he was severely wounded at Anzio, Italy.
Efram Zimbalist, Jr., US Army. Purple Heart for a severe wound received at Huertgen Forest .
Mickey Spillane, US Army Air Corps, Fighter Pilot and later Instructor Pilot.
Rod Serling. US Army. 11th Airborne Division in the Pacific. He jumped at Tagaytay in the Philippines and was later wounded in Manila.
Gene Autry, US Army Air Corps. Crewman on transports that ferried supplies over “The Hump” in the China-Burma-India Theater.
William Holden, US Army Air Corps.
Alan Hale Jr, US Coast Guard.
Russell Johnson, US Army Air Corps. B-24 crewman who was awarded Purple Heart when his aircraft was shot down by the Japanese in thePhilippines .
William Conrad, US Army Air Corps. Fighter Pilot.
Jack Klugman, US Army.
Frank Sutton, US Army. Took part in 14 assault landings, including Leyte, Luzon, Bataan and Corregidor .
Jackie Coogan, US Army Air Corps. Volunteered for gliders and flew troops and materials into Burma behind enemy lines.
Tom Bosley, US Navy.
Claude Akins, US Army. Signal Corps.,Burma and the Philippines .
Chuck Connors, US Army. Tank-warfare instructor.
Harry Carey Jr., US Navy.
Mel Brooks, US Army. Combat Engineer Saw action in the Battle of the Bulge
Robert Altman, US Army Air Corps. B-24 Co-Pilot.
Pat Hingle, US Navy. Destroyer USS Marshall
Fred Gwynne, US Navy. Radioman.
Karl Malden, US Army Air Corps. 8th Air Force, NCO.
Earl Holliman, US Navy. Lied about his age to enlist. Discharged after a year when they Navy found out.
Rock Hudson, US Navy. Aircraft mechanic, the Philippines .
Harvey Korman, US Navy.
Aldo Ray. US Navy. UDT frogman,Okinawa .
Don Knotts, US Army, Pacific Theater.
Don Rickles, US Navy aboard USS Cyrene.
Harry Dean Stanton, US Navy Served aboard an LST in the Battle of Okinawa.
Soupy Sales, US Navy. Served on USS Randall in the South Pacific.
Lee Van Cleef, US Navy. Served aboard a sub chaser then a mine sweeper.
Clifton James, US Army, South Pacific. Was awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star, and Purple Heart.
Ted Knight, US Army, Combat Engineers.
Jack Warden, US Navy, 1938-1942, then US Army, 1942-1945. 101st Airborne Division.
Don Adams. US Marines. Wounded on Guadalcanal, then served as a Drill Instructor.
James Gregory, US Navy and US Marines.
Brian Keith, US Marines. Radioman/Gunner in Dauntless dive-bombers.
Fess Parker, US Navy and US Marines. Booted from pilot training for being too tall, joined Marines as a radio operator.
Charles Durning. US Army. Landed at Normandy on D-Day. Shot multiple times. Awarded the Silver Star and Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.Survived Malmedy Massacre.
Raymond Burr, US Navy. Shot in the stomach on Okinawa and medically discharged.
Hugh O’Brian, US Marines.
Robert Ryan, US Marines.
Eddie Albert , US Coast Guard. Bronze Star with Combat V for saving several Marines under heavy fire as pilot of a landing craft during the invasion ofTarawa .
Cark Gable, US Army Air Corps. B-17 gunner over Europe .
Charles Bronson, US Army Air Corps. B-29 gunner, wounded in action.
Peter Graves, US Army Air Corps.
Buddy Hackett, US Army anti-aircraft gunner.
Victor Mature, US Coast Guard
Jack Palance, US Army Air Corps. Severely injured bailing out of a burning B-24 bomber.
Robert Preston, US Army Air Corps. Intelligence Officer
Cesar Romero, US Coast Guard. Participated in the invasions of Tinian and Saipan on the assault transport USS Cavalier.
Norman Fell, US Army Air Corps., Tail Gunner, Pacific Theater.
Jason Robards, US Navy. Was aboard heavy cruiser USS Northampton when it was sunk off Guadalcanal. Also served on the USS Nashville during the invasion of the Philippines, surviving a kamikaze hit that caused 223 casualties.
Steve Reeves, US Army, Philippines .
Dennis Weaver, US Navy. Pilot.
Robert Taylor, US Navy. Instructor Pilot.
Randolph Scott. Tried to enlist in the Marines but was rejected due to injuries sustained in US Army, World War 1.
Ronald Reagan. US Army. Was a 2nd Lt. in the Cavalry Reserves before the war. His poor eyesight kept him from being sent overseas with his unit when war came so he transferred to the Army Air Corps Public Relations Unit where he served for the duration.
John Wayne. Declared “4F medically unfit” due to pre-existing injuries, he nonetheless attempted to volunteer three times (Army, Navy and Film Corps. so he gets honorable mention.
And of course we have Audie Murphy,America ’s most-decorated soldier, who became a Hollywood star as a result of his US Army service that included his being awarded the Medal of Honor.
Would someone please remind me again how many of today’s Hollywood elite put their careers on hold to enlist in Iraq or Afghanistan? The only one who even comes close was Pat Tillman, who turned down a contract offer of $36 million over three years from the Arizona Cardinals to enlist in the US Army after September 11, 2001, and serve as a Ranger in Afghanistan , where he died in 2004. But rather than being lauded for his choice and his decision to put his country before his career, he was mocked and derided by many of his peers.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I submit to you that this is not the America today that it was seventy years ago. And I, for one, am saddened. My generation grew up watching, being entertained by and laughing with so many of these fine people, never really knowing what they contributed to the war effort.
Like millions of Americans during the WWII, there was a job that needed doing they didn’t question, they went and did it, those that came home returned to their now new normal life and carried on, very few ever saying what they did or saw.
They took it as their “responsibility”, their “duty” to Country, to protect and preserve our freedoms and way of life, not just for themselves but for all future generations to come. As a member of a later generation, I’m forever humbly in their debt!
COMPARE WITH HOLLYWOOD TODAY! I really feel for the coming generations… And the whole ‘take a knee’ thing…
This one covers my response, and I don’t even have to use four letter words…
Keep those who are in the military in your thoughts, as they are forward and protecting US interests around the world, so we don’t have to do that here.
The secret is out – the Mycenae system is the hottest new mineral find in the spiral arm. Now it’s about to become ground zero in a gold rush by every crooked company and asteroid thief in the galaxy.
Andrew Cochrane, with his crew of the finest veterans and cunning rogues, have an even better scheme. They’ve conned the owner into hiring them as a mercenary security company to defend the system. With no oversight but their own, Cochrane’s Company plans to seize the richest pickings for themselves.
But nothing ever comes easy. If they want to keep their loot, they’re going to have to outwit and outfight every smuggler, bandit and renegade after the same prize – and their boss, too!
I was an alpha reader for this one, and it’s vintage Peter! If you enjoyed his Maxwell series, you’ll enjoy this one too!
Volume 2 of the trilogy, “An Airless Storm”, will be published in June, and Volume 3, “The Pride of the Damned”, in July.
Here’s the recipe for my version of Red Beans and Rice. Slightly modified from the original because a couple of our folks are dealing with dental issues right now…
1/2-3/4 pound of dry pulled pork (no BBQ sauce)
Saute the trinity and garlic in the olive oil for 5 minutes, then dump everything in a slow cooker on high for 4 hours.
Two large cans of collard greens, cooked with bacon grease and a little salt and pepper.
4 cups of rice, prepared in vegetable stock instead of water.
Corn bread of your choice… Enjoy!
Whomever gets the bay leaf gets to do the dishes!!! 🙂
This one came over the transom from the mil email string from the Sergeant Major…
From a friend in the UK: “Gunfire in London is no longer uncommon, even though guns are technically ‘illegal’ here! Knife attacks are also a plague, and ever associated with deadly gang warfare. Most gangs here are composed of immigrants, almost all illegal, and they’re constantly engaged in lethal territorial disputes. As a result, London’s rate of violent crime is soaring, now exceeding even NYC’s (where there are at least a few legal guns)! Guns of all types (all illegal of course) are streaming into our country, by the boatload, on any navigable waterway, and believe it or not, right through the capital’s main waterway, the Thames! Most are smuggled-in from the Mideast. As in The States, illegal migrants also come unhindered across our porous (water) borders, which we will not protect as a matter of public policy. When our cops ‘stop-and-search,’ they’re automatically accused of ‘racism,’ even when they unfailingly find these illegal immigrants laden with guns and other weapons. In the interim, our frightened citizenry remains disarmed and defenseless. London’s Islamic mayor now wants to ban even kitchen knives! I live in a country populated with VBCs (Victims, by Choice) who (by law) have no means of protecting themselves and thus daily live in morbid fear of armed and violent criminals, about whom our government does virtually nothing. We anxiously cower behind locked doors, afraid to go out. We’ve been robbed of our personal well-being, our heritage, peace, but most of all, we’ve been robbed of dignity! More correctly, we’ve traded our dignity for a pitiable handout and the myth of ‘safety,’ which as noted above, is a lie! Who value their health are well-advised not to come here. Defend your Second Amendment, or you’ll be like us!” Comment: “Learned helplessness,” a critical axiom of leftist politics, invariably leads to the above-described nauseating personal and national degradation. The spread of liberal/leftist philosophy relies completely on people being blind to history. The individual possession and bearing of arms imparts to every citizen a sense of personal worth and dignity, an air of self-respect and responsibility, impossible to bring-about any other way.
It’s turning into a real cluster over there, as other friends have pointed out. And you know it is getting bad when the Bobbies are routinely carrying weapons!!!
Kamala Harris is the Dems ‘logical’ attack bitch… Female and black, so two cards in one. That trumps Haspel, as she’s ‘only’ female. And they let her off the leash today, HERE.
I find this abhorrent and disgusting, trying to re-legislate something that has already been done, in a simple yes and no question? Then being so damn petty as to keep beating on this, no one that has ever been on the front lines could answer that as a yes or a no. I was waterboarded three times in training, and I survived it. No, it wasn’t pleasant, yes I thought I would drown, but there was no permanent damage…
Gina Haspel was in the field as an operator, doing her damnest to protect the US and the agents under her. She obviously knows MUCH more than she said, but this was an open hearing, and she actually refused to disclose classified data.
What was Harris doing? And what was her REAL goal today? Apparently she’s ‘positioning’ herself to make a run for the White House, according to some. She doesn’t realize the USA isn’t California, and us bitter clingers in flyover country have a long memory…
This crap needs to stop! It is time to stop playing games with this country’s security, foreign policy, and operations while you try to make a damn point that Trump isn’t President.
Face facts folks, your side LOST in 2016, it’s time to get on with governing the country as best we can. And you’re NOT doing that with your petty bullshit games.
Except… They weren’t anywhere near the actual convention. And note how tightly the TV shots were done… This was to NOT show the green space around the few protesters that did show up, and no coverage of the counter protesters.
And this guy either didn’t show up to write the story for USA Today, HERE, or he was ‘elsewhere’…
And of course the Huffpo had to get in on the act, HERE, but strangely, I don’t remember actually seeing or hearing of any ‘march’ on the convention center. And the pictures give lie to the ‘hundreds’ of protesters… I can’t believe that would have been missed… We would have been scrambling to get outside ad cover that!!!
There was very little coverage of the counter protesters, and the most unbiased report I found was WFAA.com, but the video takes a LONG time to load.
And of course there are ‘dire’ predictions that these protests will follow the convention to Indy next year… These ‘protests’ have been going on in some form, in some location, since at least 2011 that I know of.